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Don't trans people usually date/meet with non-trans people!?
by nikolay 2y ago
Don't trans people usually date/meet with non-trans people!?
- Melonai 2y agoNo, trans people dating other trans people is actually extremely common (both homo- and heterosexual). Often because both (or more) people often understand each others struggles and wants way better than cis people do, and simply because if you like spending time primarily in trans-heavy communities, you will likely fall for someone who's also trans.
- popcalc 2y ago[flagged]
- gowld 2y agoCan you cite any trans person who publicly agrees with your description of them as "HSTS"?
- popcalc 2y ago[flagged]
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y agoThe HSTS / AGP dichotomy is not taken seriously among trans people or care providers, don't listen to this person.
- popcalc 2y ago[flagged]
- wizzwizz4 2y agoIn the post-Karl Popper academic landscape, it's hard to beat the absurdity to explanatory-power ratio of Sigmund Freud's "penis envy", but Ray Blanchard's ravings about trans people are certainly a contender. The "science experiments" he ran to "support" his "theories" aren't quite Philip Zimbardo levels of unethical quackery, but I'm still not sure how attaching electrodes to people's genitals and making them watch porn is a sensible way to categorise anyone, even ignoring the fudging required to make his experiments show the "correct" results.
- popcalc 2y ago[flagged]
- wizzwizz4 2y agoAny argument against zodiac (birth) signs would apply equally well here. In fact, zodiac signs survive criticism better, because at least they have well-defined boundary conditions. What kind of "fetishistic transvestism" do I have if I'm a sex-repulsed aromantic trans woman?
- popcalc 2y ago[flagged]
- wizzwizz4 2y agoSo it fits "essentially every individual", except the example I just gave? Come on, even Freudian psychoanalysis has a better success rate than that. > the excruciating process of transition I have only ever seen people describe transition with words like "excruciating" for two reasons: • Social barriers, e.g. medical gatekeeping, transphobic bigotry. • Believing in the Blanchard or 4chan classification systems, and constantly judging themselves accordingly. Please don't hold onto this so tight. It's not healthy, and there's zero evidence that it's even remotely true.
- popcalc 2y ago[flagged]
- dang 2y agoCould you please stop taking this thread down a generic tangent, which is inevitably a generic flamewar tangent? This is a Show HN thread about t4t's new forum. "Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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- popcalc 2y ago[flagged]
- bobxmax 2y agoI would assume most non-trans people aren't willing to date trans people, so there's probably a pretty glaring need for them to have their own spaces.
- popcalc 2y ago[flagged]
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y agoFor casual readers: Blanchard's theories are widely discredited and "Autogynephile" is considered an impolite term among trans people.
- gemerald 2y ago[flagged]
- popcalc 2y ago[flagged]
- hackermatic 2y agoThat has not been the case in the three cities and health systems (edit: in the US) in which I've had transgender care over the past decade.
- popcalc 2y ago[flagged]
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y agoI've never heard a doctor say those words, I think you're a troll
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- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y agoIn 2024 I went on a bit of a dating spree and I had first dates with 6 other trans women. 1 cis woman ghosted me. I think most cis women-who-love-women do like trans women, but they just have more options.
- oluckyman 2y agoIndeed. It's hard to believe that until relatively recently people thought that sexual attraction was fundamentally based in biology rather than identity.
- azeirah 2y agoSexual attraction is fundamentally based in biology. Trans people are part of biology. It's what happens when you are exposed to cross-sex hormones. Personally, I tend to view (my own) transition as embracing an intersex condition with medical intervention.
- oluckyman 2y agoBut many trans women have no hormonal or surgical interventions at all. Are you implying that cis lesbians are not attracted to them?
- defrost 2y agoHumans rarely neatly fit into sharply defined boxes with no bleed across boundaries.
- azeirah 2y agoHmm.. I dunno. Not implicating anything in particular, other than that biology is ridiculously complex. I can only speak from personal experience. Before I transitioned, I noticed there was a pattern in my life where cis lesbians were interested in me, I've even dated a lesbian cis girl _as a boy_ when I was about 15 or something like that. Biology is very strange. I personally use the word "soul" for this kind of stuff. But that's nonsensical in the end.