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You can also write a python script to achieve the same goals. Except it's not python's responsibility to interpret the intent of your script, just as it's not

You can also write a python script to achieve the same goals. Except it's not python's responsibility to interpret the intent of your script, just as it's not your phone's responsibility to interpret the contents of your conversation. So our tools are not our morality police. We have a legal system that can operate within the bounds of law and due process. I am well aware of the already applied levels of machine learning policing, I am just not very excited that society has decided that "this is the way now", and also doesn't seem to be bothered by the environmental costs of building and running all these GPUs (which does seem to be the case when they are used for censorship resistant transactions), or the ethical concerns about a non-profit becoming a for-profit etc.

infecto 2y ago
The difference being you would be running that python script yourself. If you by chance hosted it somewhere there is high probability that the host would get a notice and shut you down. I honestly don't see much difference here. There will be multiple providers and perhaps great ways to run these types of tools locally, all have different risk measures.
Matl 2y ago
> You can also write a python script to achieve the same goals. First of all, I agree with you generally and am uneasy about this too. But there's a difference in that someone could say 'hey, this attack on my website happened from OpenAI's infra', whereas that would not apply to Python because it's not a hosted service.
panarky 2y ago
Even though you have the power to ignore stop signs when you're driving your own car, it's not an unreasonable restriction of your liberty when AI-driven cars stop at stop signs.
throwaway2037 2y ago
> You can also write a python script to achieve the same goals. This argument is slightly disingenuous as it requires much higher skill, so it acts as a protective barrier. A person who have never programmed in their life could easily instruct this service to do all sorts of damaging things. (I suppose your counterargument will be that people can ask an LLM to write Python code to do the same. Still, most would struggle to run the Python code.)
- kridsdale3 2y ago
  Kids. Kids are the non-aligned users who will use this to wreak havoc. And they will think it's hillarious.

infecto 2y ago

The difference being you would be running that python script yourself. If you by chance hosted it somewhere there is high probability that the host would get a notice and shut you down. I honestly don't see much difference here. There will be multiple providers and perhaps great ways to run these types of tools locally, all have different risk measures.

Matl 2y ago

> You can also write a python script to achieve the same goals. First of all, I agree with you generally and am uneasy about this too. But there's a difference in that someone could say 'hey, this attack on my website happened from OpenAI's infra', whereas that would not apply to Python because it's not a hosted service.

panarky 2y ago

Even though you have the power to ignore stop signs when you're driving your own car, it's not an unreasonable restriction of your liberty when AI-driven cars stop at stop signs.

throwaway2037 2y ago

> You can also write a python script to achieve the same goals. This argument is slightly disingenuous as it requires much higher skill, so it acts as a protective barrier. A person who have never programmed in their life could easily instruct this service to do all sorts of damaging things. (I suppose your counterargument will be that people can ask an LLM to write Python code to do the same. Still, most would struggle to run the Python code.)

kridsdale3 2y ago
Kids. Kids are the non-aligned users who will use this to wreak havoc. And they will think it's hillarious.