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George R.R. Martin has co-authored a physics paper
- Suppafly 2y agoOf course he has, literally anything to keep from finishing his book series..
- insane_dreamer 2y agoI think by now it's clear it won't be finished, and then GOT series is the "completion".
- ceejayoz 2y agoThe longer it goes, the more I think he went "oh shit they hate my ending"...
- doctoboggan 2y agoI think that GRRM could have delivered the same ending in a way that the fans would have loved. The failure really comes down to how quickly they rushed it, and didn't really give plausible explanations for the characters actions. Honestly the books were hinting that Daenerys would end up the way she did in the show. The show just did it in a very hamfisted manner.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoThis is my take as well. It was the right ending -- the problem was the last season should have been 2 (maybe even 3) seasons. I think the decision to "wrap it up" with season 8 was the network's decision for budgetary reasons? Can't remember.
- doctoboggan 2y agoThe story I heard at the time was that HBO really did want to extend it to more seasons (why wouldn't they?), but the two show runners wanted to be done. They had recently signed on to a Star Wars show I believe.
- triceratops 2y agoEvery gymnast's routine ends with them on the floor. People didn't hate the ending, they hated the landing. A bad landing can trash a gymnast's score or a show's IMDb rating. Edit: I'm amazed at Season 8's IMDb ratings. I thought the whole thing was a trash fire but the first 3 episodes - half the season - are still rated over 7.5. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/episodes/?season=8&ref_=tt_eps_sn_8 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/episodes/?season=8&ref_...
- autoexec 2y agoI've never found IMDB ratings to be worth anything.
- enragedcacti 2y ago> but the first 3 episodes - half the season - are still rated over 7.5 From what I remember the first three were competent and engaging enough in isolation but their plot beats locked in the inevitable car crash that only the book readers and super fans saw coming. Most of the ratings were probably soon after airing so the scores don't reflect the season as a whole.
- the_king 2y agoReminds me of some underrated Peter Thiel advice: almost always an extra hour invested in a project you’re already deeply into will have greater returns than starting some totally tangential thing from scratch. The tangential thing will always feel better because you make rapid progress at the start, but the real returns come from completion.
- rtkwe 2y agoThe series of the universe the paper is set in is one he's been editing since before he wrote Game of Thrones so is this procrastination on GoT or the opposite and he's no longer procrastinating by writing the ASOIAF series?
- resiros 2y agoOne has to respect his procrastination skills. He would go to learn quantum mechanics just not to complete the game of thrones books.
- umvi 2y agoPatrick Rothfuss goes to similar procrastination lengths. Guess Brandon Sanderson will have to finish their series after they die.
- EA-3167 2y agoI don't blame them for writing themselves into corners, but lacking the courage to tell your readers that you've done so and there will be no resolution to the story you've been writing doesn't impress me. I don't think they owe people a resolution, but I do think they owe them a bit of honesty.
- ziddoap 2y agoThe thing that irks me the most is that Patrick Rothfuss used to brag about how he had already completed all three books of the trilogy, and just needed to do editing passes. That was over a decade ago.
- readthenotes1 2y ago"That was over a decade ago." Or That was before he made enough money to do something other than write in his trailer.
- im3w1l 2y agoSo about the writing themselves into a corner part, it would be unconventional but what about releasing a second revision of an earlier book to make the whole coherent?
- Suppafly 2y agoGRRM's issue is that he needs to figure out how to get all of the interesting characters in one place from across a huge world. He just needs to write some sort of teleportation into the story, that's how Jordan handled it in the WoT series.
- Matthyze 2y agoI thought this was satire. What the hell George.
- blindriver 2y agoHe should be finishing the last two books, but maybe he knows that the entire franchise is dead after that last season. I would contribute to a GoFundMe where we would pay the studio and actors to redo season 8 with a better story.
- triceratops 2y agoThe show didn't kill the book franchise. Him not publishing a new book for 14 goddamn years did that.
- mktemp-d 2y agoConsidering how popular the show was at its peak, the fact that there is still more content to come and how IPs are being rehashed all the time, it would a non zero chance that they redo the entire thing someday.
- weaksauce 2y agowhat's funny is that, from what i recall hearing, the creative forces behind the tv show essentially got bored with the show and crammed a ton of stuff into season 8 and kinda just phoned it in. iirc hbo was willing for one or two more seasons after 8
- karmakurtisaani 2y agoThe producers got like a 100 million deal from Disney to start making shows for them, IIRC.
- weaksauce 2y agothat's an insane amount of money if it's accurate. wonder why they couldn't just negotiate with hbo to let them free and have someone else do their part.
- ashoeafoot 2y agoDisney ruining shoes they not even own, thats a first..
- hsuduebc2 2y agoMen rather co-author physics paper than finish their brilliant fantasy series.
- subroutine 2y agoThis seems more like an epidemiology paper than a physics paper. They probably could have modeled it after the Zaire Ebola virus, with a mortality rate of 90 percent.
- hsuduebc2 2y agoLiterally anything but the book. Next time we receive invention of cold fusion. But not the book.
- ashoeafoot 2y agohis job is spending the money before he dies
- lores 2y agoI was working for his publisher in 2016, and the whole company was geared towards a September release for the Winds of Winter - editing, marketing, physical printing, everything. It was not the first time, but they had extracted a cast-iron promise that the book would be finished, and tha's as good as it gets in publishing. September came, then left, then more months, then more... His editor chose to live in a cave in the mountains of Morocco.
- panda-giddiness 2y agoSince the article doesn't mention it: Ian Tregillis (the first author of the paper and staff scientist at Los Alamos) also moonlights as a sci-fi/fantasy author. Personally I found The Milkweed Triptych a more compelling read than A Song of Ice and Fire, and it also has the benefit of being finished! (Here's a one sentence hook: WWII, except with English wizards fighting Nazi X-Men.)
- Suppafly 2y ago>Here's a one sentence hook: WWII, except with English wizards fighting Nazi X-Men. That sounds horrible.
- panda-giddiness 2y agoWell, then don't read it! While that's the most campy distillation of the premise, the writing is anything but. George R.R. Martin himself declared Tregillis "a major new talent".
- alt227 2y ago....a fictional physics paper to accompany a book/role playing game series. I feel the title is somewhat clickbait.
- triceratops 2y agoHe wrote different fiction instead of the fiction we actually want him to write? That's worse IMO.
- bowsamic 2y agoI’m not sure about the entitlement and anger around someone not producing the entertainment you want in this thread
- jzb 2y agoI'm not seeing a lot of entitlement or anger. GRRM is not obligated to finish the series--but, neither is he free from people giving him shit for not finishing the series. If you start a book series, foster a fandom, sell the rights to it for a TV franchise, and then fail to complete it... yeah, people are gonna give you shit when you not only don't finish it, but also move on to a totally unrelated activity! But I think most of the commentary here is just in fun. I'm not angry at GRRM, but TBH if I knew him I don't think I'd be able to pass up "so, George... how's the book coming?" every time I saw him -- or "dude, you'll do _anything_ but work on the book, huh?" (Also: I am a writer. I know all about procrastination... best way to focus on writing is to have something else I don't want to do.)
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- Suppafly 2y ago>I’m not sure about the entitlement and anger around someone not producing the entertainment you want in this thread I haven't seen any of that in this thread.
- sublinear 2y agoif you smeellll what the propaganda is cookin'...