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I messed with TMSU back one of the previous times it was posted. It's very cool and works well but I just couldn't make myself go retroactively apply tags to te

by teach 2y ago

I messed with TMSU back one of the previous times it was posted. It's very cool and works well but I just couldn't make myself go retroactively apply tags to terabytes of existing files. It almost feels like a personal categorization version of the "AI Bitter Lesson": people keep thinking that doing a bunch of manual taxonomy work is going to help them find files faster but eventually search catches up

bityard 2y ago
My version of that is, "metadata curation is a fun hobby but search is king."
- walterbell 2y ago
  Search and LLMs can make good use of accurately labelled data.
sunrunner 2y ago
> retroactively apply tags to terabytes of existing files This has always felt like one of the primary issues with tag-based lookup over hierarchical. By the time you're knee deep with enough stuff that you realise tags would help, you've already accumulated too much to practically deal with. That and figuring out what the tags should be upfront and hoping you don't realise you need additional or different tags later on.
- walterbell 2y ago
  CLI tools (find, grep, locate, tmsu) enable bulk changes to tags.
  - casey2 2y ago
    Only to the files you can already easily find with find grep plocate etc That's because they are already tagged via path, or in the file. I'm just going to wait for multimodal LLM tagging solutions to catch up, rather than just try to hack it with current models/tech.
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londons_explore 2y ago
> people keep thinking that doing a bunch of manual taxonomy work is going to help them find files faster but eventually search catches up This. I spent many days cataloging, tagging, deduping and organising my photo and data files, programs, bookmarks, etc. And I've barely used any of those photos or data files since. The time invested totally wasn't well spent, and I should have just left everything called "DSC0000565.jpg".

by teach 2y ago

bityard 2y ago

My version of that is, "metadata curation is a fun hobby but search is king."

walterbell 2y ago
Search and LLMs can make good use of accurately labelled data.

sunrunner 2y ago

> retroactively apply tags to terabytes of existing files This has always felt like one of the primary issues with tag-based lookup over hierarchical. By the time you're knee deep with enough stuff that you realise tags would help, you've already accumulated too much to practically deal with. That and figuring out what the tags should be upfront and hoping you don't realise you need additional or different tags later on.

walterbell 2y ago
CLI tools (find, grep, locate, tmsu) enable bulk changes to tags.
- casey2 2y ago
  Only to the files you can already easily find with find grep plocate etc That's because they are already tagged via path, or in the file. I'm just going to wait for multimodal LLM tagging solutions to catch up, rather than just try to hack it with current models/tech.

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londons_explore 2y ago

> people keep thinking that doing a bunch of manual taxonomy work is going to help them find files faster but eventually search catches up This. I spent many days cataloging, tagging, deduping and organising my photo and data files, programs, bookmarks, etc. And I've barely used any of those photos or data files since. The time invested totally wasn't well spent, and I should have just left everything called "DSC0000565.jpg".