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Created an account just to call this scam out: There's no way this is legit--could not find information on ANY of the people listed on the site. Backgrounds lo

Created an account just to call this scam out: There's no way this is legit--could not find information on ANY of the people listed on the site. Backgrounds look like they are in a huge office, but in reality the address they show on their site appears to be a residential building, but the flat number they specify does NOT exist (in Spain the public Catastro lists not only buildings but also the layout of the buildings, and flat 1-D does not exist, it only has from 1-A up to 1-C, see: https://www.idealista.com/maps/madrid-madrid/avenida-betanzos/91/ https://www.idealista.com/maps/madrid-madrid/avenida-betanzo...). Also, they try to look professional and big (there appears to be a huge office with many people on it) but... this is crowdfunded? I'm calling bullshit here

the__alchemist 2y ago
A possible explanation is a design student's project for a portfolio, or a startup's obligatory fibs. I suspect your explanation is the most accurate of these.
wakawaka28 2y ago
It might not be legit, but I think you are being too harsh. The second and higher floors of that building have D units. It is not uncommon for floors in buildings like that to be carbon copies. The D unit might just be commercial space and listed separately or not at all. The owner could have removed it from the listing because it was commercial, or maybe the owner of this thing also owns the building. Making a phone is not a poor man's passion project. Secondly, without knowing how they intend to implement this you can't really draw many conclusions. Startup companies don't need huge offices to start with and the manufacturing is almost always in Asia.
- tecleandor 2y ago
  From what I've seen in the records for the company, the D is not for the letter after 'C', but for "Derecha" (right). But anyway, this is a big Opus Dei family with bank businesses that registers their "phone business" in a cheap apartment of a simple neighborhood. Nothing against the neighborhood, I live near, but I think they're not coming as sincere to me.
  - tecleandor 2y ago
    Well, now I've checked a bit around the family and some of them are related to the Rodrigo Rato bank fraud in Bankia. And I think none of them have had anything to do with hardware ever. Wouldn't touch this product with a ten foot pole.
IncepTM 2y ago
Don't know but at least the people in the Photos with what they do is found on Linkedin. Don't know where you looked or how deep, but it seems there is something.

the__alchemist 2y ago

A possible explanation is a design student's project for a portfolio, or a startup's obligatory fibs. I suspect your explanation is the most accurate of these.

wakawaka28 2y ago

It might not be legit, but I think you are being too harsh. The second and higher floors of that building have D units. It is not uncommon for floors in buildings like that to be carbon copies. The D unit might just be commercial space and listed separately or not at all. The owner could have removed it from the listing because it was commercial, or maybe the owner of this thing also owns the building. Making a phone is not a poor man's passion project. Secondly, without knowing how they intend to implement this you can't really draw many conclusions. Startup companies don't need huge offices to start with and the manufacturing is almost always in Asia.

tecleandor 2y ago
From what I've seen in the records for the company, the D is not for the letter after 'C', but for "Derecha" (right). But anyway, this is a big Opus Dei family with bank businesses that registers their "phone business" in a cheap apartment of a simple neighborhood. Nothing against the neighborhood, I live near, but I think they're not coming as sincere to me.
- tecleandor 2y ago
  Well, now I've checked a bit around the family and some of them are related to the Rodrigo Rato bank fraud in Bankia. And I think none of them have had anything to do with hardware ever. Wouldn't touch this product with a ten foot pole.

IncepTM 2y ago

Don't know but at least the people in the Photos with what they do is found on Linkedin. Don't know where you looked or how deep, but it seems there is something.