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I wish that keeping this much data was a liability. I want companies to be liable for damages in the millions of dollars if they share an entire year's worth of
by plagiarist 2y ago
I wish that keeping this much data was a liability. I want companies to be liable for damages in the millions of dollars if they share an entire year's worth of location data without express permission from the vehicle owner. HIPAA for "just" PII.
- inetknght 2y ago> I want companies to be liable for damages in the millions of dollars if they share an entire year's worth of location data without express permission from the vehicle owner. Moreover, not just millions of dollars in aggregate, but millions of dollars per individual customer whose privacy was violated.
- TheJoeMan 2y agoIf I collected this much information about a single individual, I would go to jail for stalking. But with the wonders of technology, I can stalk "at scale"!
- neeeeeeal 2y agoThis is the way. What legitimate interest could Subaru have in maintaining this much data about their customers?
- genewitch 2y agoThe most charitable guess I can make is that they use it to improve their driver assist, lane keeping, pacing, and that sort of thing. location and g force and direction when the automated system shuts off and returns control to the driver, that sort of thing. I don't agree with it, but that would be my guess. I own a Subaru that does this, so I'm not happy about it, but what can I do? That's rhetorical.
- ndileas 2y agoUnfortunately, selling it to repo men is a widely accepted practice.
- SoftTalker 2y agoSo, make your payments.
- mschuster91 2y agoThe same thing all car manufacturers are after... AI. And I'm not joking this time. Cars have become a commodity, especially since China made their first vehicles that didn't get outright banned in Europe for being too unsafe to be roadworthy, and even some nominally "entry level" cars have more horsepower under the hood than a 1990s 7-series BMW (138 kW). Strict requirements on emissions, fuel consumption and crash safety have all but eliminated differences in optics (the amount of shapes is finite). So the only thing left to differentiate other than build quality (where China is rapidly catching up) is assistance systems... and there, AI is the hot craze, and AI only works when it has insane amounts of data to gobble up.
- TheCondor 2y agoAre you new? That stuff is probably more valuable than many of us want to admit. There is the maybe more noble value: training data for maps, traffic analysis AI, engineering duty cycle data, things like that. Then there are the other uses, for example various surveys and studies are needed for new roads or signal changes, can this kind of data proxy for that? We would be talking about cutting millions of dollars out of some of these projects and months or even years off a timeline. Then the ad-tech, where do you put billboards and signage? Where do you build a shop? Probably other uses we aren’t even thinking about.
- Shocka1 2y agoThe well known Japanese manufacturer I used to work for sold the data. Why else?
- coldpie 2y agoThe best case scenario for the next 5-10 years is that there will be no new federal privacy regulations. More likely, privacy regulations will be even further relaxed and customers will have even less recourse for violations. You might have some luck pursuing this at the state level if you're lucky enough to live in a handful of states such as California or Minnesota.
- plagiarist 2y agoI wish you weren't correct. It is more likely some sort of federal regulation undoes protections such as CCPA.