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Perhaps JetBrains should reconsider AppCode, since Xcode only got this crappy recently. Apparently they didn't get the market share they had hoped for. https:/

Perhaps JetBrains should reconsider AppCode, since Xcode only got this crappy recently. Apparently they didn't get the market share they had hoped for. https://blog.jetbrains.com/appcode/2022/12/appcode-2022-3-release-and-end-of-sales-and-support/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/appcode/2022/12/appcode-2022-3-re...

wruza 2y ago
Xcode only got this crappy recently It gets exponentially more crappy every time, which creates an impression that it only got crappy recently. I remember it doing this since 2010. The usual counter is to stay on the same version until either of you is literally dead. Although I didn’t find AppCode more useful for my simple tasks. If anything, it felt android-ish in ux, if you know what I mean.
- aleph_minus_one 2y ago
  > It gets exponentially more crappy every time On which ratio scale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_measurement#Ratio_scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_measurement#Ratio_sca... ) do you define/measure "crappiness" so that you can say that "crappiness" grows exponentially? ;-)
joshstrange 2y ago
> since Xcode only got this crappy recently I've always felt like it was slow and annoying to use personally. At least coming from the IntelliJ world, maybe if you were only in Xcode it was pretty decent until recently.
- bena 2y ago
  Same. Coming from Visual Studio, XCode always felt just kinda bad.
dtech 2y ago
They seem to be putting all of their eggs in the Kotlin multi-platform basket. Might also be why they discontinued it so those devs with iOS expertise could focus on that.
- singularity2001 2y ago
  Kotlin which is a beautiful language unfortunately is killed by Gradle which is even worse than Xcode
  - bartekpacia 2y ago
    this might interest you: https://github.com/JetBrains/amper https://github.com/JetBrains/amper
lucsky 2y ago
> since Xcode only got this crappy recently Xcode has been slow, messy, buggy and all around atrocious to use since day one. Being forced to migrate from MPW and Code Warrior to this utter piece of garbage has actually pushed me to web development.

wruza 2y ago

Xcode only got this crappy recently It gets exponentially more crappy every time, which creates an impression that it only got crappy recently. I remember it doing this since 2010. The usual counter is to stay on the same version until either of you is literally dead. Although I didn’t find AppCode more useful for my simple tasks. If anything, it felt android-ish in ux, if you know what I mean.

aleph_minus_one 2y ago
> It gets exponentially more crappy every time On which ratio scale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_measurement#Ratio_scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_measurement#Ratio_sca... ) do you define/measure "crappiness" so that you can say that "crappiness" grows exponentially? ;-)

joshstrange 2y ago

> since Xcode only got this crappy recently I've always felt like it was slow and annoying to use personally. At least coming from the IntelliJ world, maybe if you were only in Xcode it was pretty decent until recently.

bena 2y ago
Same. Coming from Visual Studio, XCode always felt just kinda bad.

dtech 2y ago

They seem to be putting all of their eggs in the Kotlin multi-platform basket. Might also be why they discontinued it so those devs with iOS expertise could focus on that.

singularity2001 2y ago
Kotlin which is a beautiful language unfortunately is killed by Gradle which is even worse than Xcode
- bartekpacia 2y ago
  this might interest you: https://github.com/JetBrains/amper https://github.com/JetBrains/amper

lucsky 2y ago

> since Xcode only got this crappy recently Xcode has been slow, messy, buggy and all around atrocious to use since day one. Being forced to migrate from MPW and Code Warrior to this utter piece of garbage has actually pushed me to web development.