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I don’t think Trump made any campaign promises that wouldn’t deliver a catastrophic blow to the US economy. That was his entire campaign.

steveBK123 2y ago
Pretty much his whole campaign was that inflation was bad, and also here's a bunch of stuff I'm gonna do (which will make inflation worse). Mass deportations (reduces low wage services workforce), tariffs (tax on imports), taking Fed independence away so he could cut rates fast & furiously (the fuel that feeds every inflation wave), etc.
- le-mark 2y ago
  The wave of propaganda via conservative media was total and complete. I believe there is a lot of foreign money involved. I hope other democratic countries have taken note.
  - sympil 2y ago
    Yes. And it was done so cheaply. It is now easy a relatively cheap to sway public opinion. The concentration of social media in a few company’s hands means that large amounts of regulation are needed.
  - mostlysimilar 2y ago
    Not just conservative media. All media is captured by these oligarchs now. The real consequences will not be reported and will not be shared through social media. It's time to start building resilient in-person connections if you don't yet have them. The state has captured all digital communication.
  - steveBK123 2y ago
    I think everyone here is overestimating voters. Inflation was higher than it has been in recent history (ex COVID spike). This already defaults people into "kick the bums out" mode. Trump is rhetorically gifted and was able to latch onto the topic even if his solutions will only worsen it. Don't assume malice and conspiracy where incompetence and laziness suffice.
    - archagon 2y ago
      Rhetorically gifted?!? Have you heard the man attempt to speak…?
      - bdangubic 2y ago
        you know the audience that considers him rhetorically gifted, right...? :)
      - steveBK123 2y ago
        Not all entertainment is for all audiences.
  - jfengel 2y ago
    Yes, they've noticed. Unfortunately, the ones who are taking the best notes are the ones who want to repeat this performance.
bdangubic 2y ago
deregulation is ways great for the economy
- mcphage 2y ago
  In the short term, sure. In the longer term… have you met 2008?
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    see my comment above... you are right but there is no longer term in politics, especially in today's day and age...
    - mcphage 2y ago
      > you are right but there is no longer term in politics, especially in today's day and age Unfortunately, I still have enough years left in me, that I'm gonna be here for the long haul. The stock market exploding due to deregulation, and then in 10 years the entire economy imploding because of it, just means that I'm going to have to live through the economy imploding again.
      - bdangubic 2y ago
        I do not disagree, however my entire comment was on: I don’t think Trump made any campaign promises that wouldn’t deliver a catastrophic blow to the US economy I think deregulation will help the economy for sure. we can only speculate about the 10-year effects of such decisions
        mcphage 2y ago
        > we can only speculate about the 10-year effects of such decisions I feel like I've been around long enough that I don't need to speculate on the long term effects of deregulation. We've seen the same things happen over and over.
  - 2y ago

steveBK123 2y ago

Pretty much his whole campaign was that inflation was bad, and also here's a bunch of stuff I'm gonna do (which will make inflation worse). Mass deportations (reduces low wage services workforce), tariffs (tax on imports), taking Fed independence away so he could cut rates fast & furiously (the fuel that feeds every inflation wave), etc.

le-mark 2y ago
The wave of propaganda via conservative media was total and complete. I believe there is a lot of foreign money involved. I hope other democratic countries have taken note.
- sympil 2y ago
  Yes. And it was done so cheaply. It is now easy a relatively cheap to sway public opinion. The concentration of social media in a few company’s hands means that large amounts of regulation are needed.
- mostlysimilar 2y ago
  Not just conservative media. All media is captured by these oligarchs now. The real consequences will not be reported and will not be shared through social media. It's time to start building resilient in-person connections if you don't yet have them. The state has captured all digital communication.
- steveBK123 2y ago
  I think everyone here is overestimating voters. Inflation was higher than it has been in recent history (ex COVID spike). This already defaults people into "kick the bums out" mode. Trump is rhetorically gifted and was able to latch onto the topic even if his solutions will only worsen it. Don't assume malice and conspiracy where incompetence and laziness suffice.
  - archagon 2y ago
    Rhetorically gifted?!? Have you heard the man attempt to speak…?
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      you know the audience that considers him rhetorically gifted, right...? :)
    - steveBK123 2y ago
      Not all entertainment is for all audiences.
- jfengel 2y ago
  Yes, they've noticed. Unfortunately, the ones who are taking the best notes are the ones who want to repeat this performance.

bdangubic 2y ago

deregulation is ways great for the economy

mcphage 2y ago
In the short term, sure. In the longer term… have you met 2008?
- bdangubic 2y ago
  see my comment above... you are right but there is no longer term in politics, especially in today's day and age...
  - mcphage 2y ago
    > you are right but there is no longer term in politics, especially in today's day and age Unfortunately, I still have enough years left in me, that I'm gonna be here for the long haul. The stock market exploding due to deregulation, and then in 10 years the entire economy imploding because of it, just means that I'm going to have to live through the economy imploding again.
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      I do not disagree, however my entire comment was on: I don’t think Trump made any campaign promises that wouldn’t deliver a catastrophic blow to the US economy I think deregulation will help the economy for sure. we can only speculate about the 10-year effects of such decisions
      - mcphage 2y ago
        > we can only speculate about the 10-year effects of such decisions I feel like I've been around long enough that I don't need to speculate on the long term effects of deregulation. We've seen the same things happen over and over.
- 2y ago