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I'm really not a fan of the "what colour is your component" situation introduced by RSC. RSC is a cool feature, but I'm still not convinced that the added chur

I'm really not a fan of the "what colour is your component" situation introduced by RSC. RSC is a cool feature, but I'm still not convinced that the added churn of thinking about "colours" when building components and structuring the component tree is worth it for the benefits it gives.

bripkens 2y ago
It adds notable complexity, and I sense that the whole server/client side component reality is wildly ill-understood.
davedx 2y ago
It’s awful and I’m pretty sad that it seems the entire nodejs community has adopted next.js as standard. All projects I’ve been involved with use it and none of them use any SSR at all.
- sesm 2y ago
  That's mostly because `create-react-app` was abandoned. There is no default project template for React SPA, so everyone just uses Next, even if they don't need SSR.
  - hsavit1 2y ago
    vite exists? what are you even talking about
    - sesm 2y ago
      A lot of things exist. But to become a go-to standard a good timing is required. Next.js was getting popular right at the time Facebook abandoned 'create-react-app' template, and many people adopted Next.js even if they didn't need SSR. Vite didn't exist back then.
  - idrios 2y ago
    I didn't know create-react-app was abandoned. What was wrong with it?
    - sesm 2y ago
      Nothing, it just required resources to maintain, which Facebook doesn't want to dedicate.
      - meiraleal 2y ago
        That's the naive answer. I don't think the promotion of Vercel in React docs and the discontinuation of create-react-app are unrelated.
  - davedx 2y ago
    But this works fine, I use it for all my side projects: https://vite.dev/guide/#scaffolding-your-first-vite-project https://vite.dev/guide/#scaffolding-your-first-vite-project Add in tailwind and a router of choice (I love wouter) and you've got 90% of what you need to build most applications. Vite is so much simpler than webpack and the rest that came before, it's a tiny amount of work to do this.
csomar 2y ago
It is a solution when all your developers are bootcamped on react for 6 months and don't know how to run a proper back-end. Managers like it because their front-end react dev can add a back-end feature NOW and in 1 hour.
- jeppester 2y ago
  My experience is that even seasoned frontend devs get confused about what happens where and for what reason.

bripkens 2y ago

It adds notable complexity, and I sense that the whole server/client side component reality is wildly ill-understood.

davedx 2y ago

It’s awful and I’m pretty sad that it seems the entire nodejs community has adopted next.js as standard. All projects I’ve been involved with use it and none of them use any SSR at all.

sesm 2y ago
That's mostly because `create-react-app` was abandoned. There is no default project template for React SPA, so everyone just uses Next, even if they don't need SSR.
- hsavit1 2y ago
  vite exists? what are you even talking about
  - sesm 2y ago
    A lot of things exist. But to become a go-to standard a good timing is required. Next.js was getting popular right at the time Facebook abandoned 'create-react-app' template, and many people adopted Next.js even if they didn't need SSR. Vite didn't exist back then.
- idrios 2y ago
  I didn't know create-react-app was abandoned. What was wrong with it?
  - sesm 2y ago
    Nothing, it just required resources to maintain, which Facebook doesn't want to dedicate.
    - meiraleal 2y ago
      That's the naive answer. I don't think the promotion of Vercel in React docs and the discontinuation of create-react-app are unrelated.
- davedx 2y ago
  But this works fine, I use it for all my side projects: https://vite.dev/guide/#scaffolding-your-first-vite-project https://vite.dev/guide/#scaffolding-your-first-vite-project Add in tailwind and a router of choice (I love wouter) and you've got 90% of what you need to build most applications. Vite is so much simpler than webpack and the rest that came before, it's a tiny amount of work to do this.

csomar 2y ago

It is a solution when all your developers are bootcamped on react for 6 months and don't know how to run a proper back-end. Managers like it because their front-end react dev can add a back-end feature NOW and in 1 hour.

jeppester 2y ago
My experience is that even seasoned frontend devs get confused about what happens where and for what reason.