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If you woke up tomorrow in either USA or China, which would you prefer to wake up in and why?

grardb 2y ago
I feel the need to point out that while many people might understand the point you're trying to make, the way this question is phrased doesn't do the best job of conveying it. If I was presented with two options: waking up tomorrow as the child of a poor farmer in a third-world country, or waking up as one of Donald Trump's children, I would definitely choose the latter. However, that doesn't mean that I trust Trump more than I would trust the farmer. In other words, quality of life (or a preferred way of living) are not inherently tied to trust, morality, or anything like that.
- rthrfrd 2y ago
  Why did you choose to wake up as the child of a peasant in one country but the child of the president in another? Quality of life is inherently tied to trust and morality - both in terms of the effect of fear (a lack of trust) or isolation (a lack of moral consensus, or equality and sense of shared belonging).
guappa 2y ago
If you want to pay me a trip, I'd gladly go to both, and leave my regular electronic devices at home while crossing both borders :D
bromuro 2y ago
Living in these countries sounds to me like a nightmare (and I am from a 3rd world country). I’d prefer China because the ancient culture, history and thriving economy.
- rthrfrd 2y ago
  3rd world country or not - I hope you appreciate that you are incredibly fortunate for "ancient culture" and "history" to be 2 of your top 3 considerations for where to live and the quality of life that would give you. Perhaps revalidate the "thriving economy" assertion before taking the plunge though (and be mindful of how hyper-localised that is).
gaoryrt 2y ago
Classic false dilemma[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
- sausagefeet 2y ago
  My question is not a false dilemma. As the link you gave points out, a false dilemma starts with a false premise which limits the subject to two absolutes when in-fact multiple exist. My question has no false premise, it's simply asking, if given this scenario, which would you choose and why. I am not saying that in reality you only have those options. The original comment setup the contrast of USA and China, so my question was a way to elucidate more about that contrast.

I feel the need to point out that while many people might understand the point you're trying to make, the way this question is phrased doesn't do the best job of conveying it. If I was presented with two options: waking up tomorrow as the child of a poor farmer in a third-world country, or waking up as one of Donald Trump's children, I would definitely choose the latter. However, that doesn't mean that I trust Trump more than I would trust the farmer. In other words, quality of life (or a preferred way of living) are not inherently tied to trust, morality, or anything like that.

rthrfrd 2y ago
Why did you choose to wake up as the child of a peasant in one country but the child of the president in another? Quality of life is inherently tied to trust and morality - both in terms of the effect of fear (a lack of trust) or isolation (a lack of moral consensus, or equality and sense of shared belonging).

guappa 2y ago

If you want to pay me a trip, I'd gladly go to both, and leave my regular electronic devices at home while crossing both borders :D

bromuro 2y ago

Living in these countries sounds to me like a nightmare (and I am from a 3rd world country). I’d prefer China because the ancient culture, history and thriving economy.

rthrfrd 2y ago
3rd world country or not - I hope you appreciate that you are incredibly fortunate for "ancient culture" and "history" to be 2 of your top 3 considerations for where to live and the quality of life that would give you. Perhaps revalidate the "thriving economy" assertion before taking the plunge though (and be mindful of how hyper-localised that is).

gaoryrt 2y ago

Classic false dilemma[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

sausagefeet 2y ago
My question is not a false dilemma. As the link you gave points out, a false dilemma starts with a false premise which limits the subject to two absolutes when in-fact multiple exist. My question has no false premise, it's simply asking, if given this scenario, which would you choose and why. I am not saying that in reality you only have those options. The original comment setup the contrast of USA and China, so my question was a way to elucidate more about that contrast.