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This is probably true, but at least in principle one of those foreign nations stands for free speech and democracy and the other stands for censorship and autho

by piker 2y ago

This is probably true, but at least in principle one of those foreign nations stands for free speech and democracy and the other stands for censorship and authoritarianism. [Edit: hey Europeans commenting and downvoting below, note the words "in principle" in the above comment and evaluate which of the two countries do or do not purport to stand for these things despite whatever your hot take may be on the current moment.]

guappa 2y ago
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littlestymaar 2y ago
> at least in principle one of those foreign nations stands for free speech and democracy Only of of them is hypocritical, that's it.
chucklenorris 2y ago
That's actually funny.. considering that the main reason TikTok ban was proposed was the lack of censorship of sensitive topics like a certain genocide
herbst 2y ago
That's 2 words non US people usually don't think when they think US. Democracy is literally the last thing that would come to my mind right now. Edit:// "In principle" chinas gov stands for stability, economic development and national unity...
- looofooo0 2y ago
  Lol, you can shitpost anything about any politician in the USA. Hang any flag on your car, house etc. and you will be fine. Try the same in China.
  - herbst 2y ago
    Huh? Does that negate the missing democracy, the political distrust and the political censorship within your country? I am happy for you and your flags. However I didn't claim that china is more "free" just that the US definitely isn't seen as that from the outside anymore. It's not always a direct competition
  - guappa 2y ago
    You can shitpost but the algorithm will make sure it doesn't get read :)
- piker 2y ago
  > Edit:// "In principle" chinas gov stands for stability, economic development and national unity... As did Stalin, Mussolini, Hirohito and the National Socialist Party. It's the "how" that matters.
  - yard2010 2y ago
    Exactly. What's the big idea to be strong and stable when you have no respect whatsoever for human lives? You can just kill the competition! Sacha Baron Cohen's The Dictator is a piece of art that demonstrates this absurdity in the best possible way.
  - guappa 2y ago
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    - piker 2y ago
      Perhaps you might spend 5 minutes reading the quoted comment again and note the absence of "democracy".
easyThrowaway 2y ago
Given the last few days, As a EU citizen I'm not so sure such distinction is fully accurate anymore. And I'm pretty sure in 2 to 3 years from today the distinction will be even less noticeable. I wouldn't trust a US data company to not capitulate to... "personal requests" by Musk or Trump any more than I trust it not happening in an hungarian, russian, turkish or chinese one with their respective leadership (official or otherwise).

by piker 2y ago

guappa 2y ago

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littlestymaar 2y ago

> at least in principle one of those foreign nations stands for free speech and democracy Only of of them is hypocritical, that's it.

chucklenorris 2y ago

That's actually funny.. considering that the main reason TikTok ban was proposed was the lack of censorship of sensitive topics like a certain genocide

herbst 2y ago

That's 2 words non US people usually don't think when they think US. Democracy is literally the last thing that would come to my mind right now. Edit:// "In principle" chinas gov stands for stability, economic development and national unity...

looofooo0 2y ago
Lol, you can shitpost anything about any politician in the USA. Hang any flag on your car, house etc. and you will be fine. Try the same in China.
- herbst 2y ago
  Huh? Does that negate the missing democracy, the political distrust and the political censorship within your country? I am happy for you and your flags. However I didn't claim that china is more "free" just that the US definitely isn't seen as that from the outside anymore. It's not always a direct competition
- guappa 2y ago
  You can shitpost but the algorithm will make sure it doesn't get read :)
piker 2y ago
> Edit:// "In principle" chinas gov stands for stability, economic development and national unity... As did Stalin, Mussolini, Hirohito and the National Socialist Party. It's the "how" that matters.
- yard2010 2y ago
  Exactly. What's the big idea to be strong and stable when you have no respect whatsoever for human lives? You can just kill the competition! Sacha Baron Cohen's The Dictator is a piece of art that demonstrates this absurdity in the best possible way.
- guappa 2y ago
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  - piker 2y ago
    Perhaps you might spend 5 minutes reading the quoted comment again and note the absence of "democracy".

easyThrowaway 2y ago

Given the last few days, As a EU citizen I'm not so sure such distinction is fully accurate anymore. And I'm pretty sure in 2 to 3 years from today the distinction will be even less noticeable. I wouldn't trust a US data company to not capitulate to... "personal requests" by Musk or Trump any more than I trust it not happening in an hungarian, russian, turkish or chinese one with their respective leadership (official or otherwise).