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Bro the West is getting cooked by China right now. We might be fucked. Everything that has been coming out of China is better than anything our mega trillion d

Bro the West is getting cooked by China right now. We might be fucked. Everything that has been coming out of China is better than anything our mega trillion dollar corporation are producing and they are doing with with sanctions on the best GPUs. I don't work in big tech, why are they so bad with sigifically more money and more advanced technology? Google had a decade and a half head start and they can't even produce a model that is as good and as cheap as Deepseek building with no compute compared to Google. I have been using Trae and VS Code with Copilot is laughable compare too it despite using the same models. So we can't even prompt LLMs as good as they do and they don't even speak English as a first language LMFAO. We might be fucked and this is just the beginning. Maybe time to learn code should be time to learn Chinese.

opwieurposiu 2y ago
My kids are in elementary school that Chinese language in the morning and English in the afternoon. Only problem is now I have no idea what they are talking about half the time.
- wood_spirit 2y ago
  Which Chinese language do they learn?
  - opwieurposiu 2y ago
    Mandarin with the Simplified Characters (4 Tone Mainland Style)
tnt128 2y ago
Haven’t tried Trae. Is it objectively better than cursor? I felt this statement might be premature. US is still leading in software and AI space.
- impulser_ 2y ago
  The chat UX is definitely better than Cursor. It less janky and I like that it wait until generation is done before asking you if you want to apply the suggested the changes instead of loading them into your file right after like cursor does. Also you can apply at cursor which is nice for snippets. The Builder tool is probably the best feature of Trae. It builds React UIs better than any tool even v0 which is built for building React UIs. It very good at recreating UI from image even better than using the model directly which I'm not too sure how... Code completion is probably closer to copilot than cursor so it depends on how hardcore you like your AI code completion. So Cursor might be better especially for repetitive refactoring. The overall design and feel of Trae is better the VS Code and Cursor, but I'm a big fan of JetBrains and it feel a lot like a JetBrains IDE.
  - tnt128 2y ago
    Ah. Thx for the break down.
  - handfuloflight 2y ago
    Would you choose this over JetBrains?
    - impulser_ 2y ago
      No, because I like debuggers but if you don't care about debuggers than I would. It's basically a better Fleet. In fact, it's if Fleet and VS Code had a baby lol.
      - verdverm 2y ago
        Does Jetbrains have a language agnostic IDE? Their page makes it look like you need to pick one specific to a language, but I have repos with multiple languages Like why does this page even exist? https://www.jetbrains.com/ides/#choose-your-ide https://www.jetbrains.com/ides/#choose-your-ide
        2y ago
cedws 2y ago
This won’t be a popular opinion here on HN but I think it’s the beginning of the end for Western hegemony. Asia is powering full steam ahead while we sit idle. We have much lower social cohesion and it’s getting worse all the time. We’re becoming lower trust societies. We don’t incentivise building enough. Success is considered having enough capital to sit back and generate more capital while contributing nothing back to society. At the forefront of our politicians’ minds are how many genders there are. In the UK just building a new high speed railway has practically been the Manhattan project. Will we get back on track? I think the chances of that are rapidly diminishing.
- wordofx 2y ago
  Well the west is too busy trying to answer the question “what is a woman” and allowing mass migration into their countries. While Asia is like “there’s men and woman, and we make it hard for you to live in our country and never get citizenship while we out build you in every aspect”
  - repeekad 2y ago
    what's funny is debating about "what is a woman" vs having to work 6 days a week 6 to 9pm, I know which country I'd rather live in
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
- shigawire 2y ago
  >At the forefront of our politicians’ minds are how many genders there are. This seems so irrelevant. Why do you think reactionary politics will lead to more innovation?
  - guappa 2y ago
    I don't think you understood his comment.

opwieurposiu 2y ago

My kids are in elementary school that Chinese language in the morning and English in the afternoon. Only problem is now I have no idea what they are talking about half the time.

wood_spirit 2y ago
Which Chinese language do they learn?
- opwieurposiu 2y ago
  Mandarin with the Simplified Characters (4 Tone Mainland Style)

tnt128 2y ago

Haven’t tried Trae. Is it objectively better than cursor? I felt this statement might be premature. US is still leading in software and AI space.

impulser_ 2y ago
The chat UX is definitely better than Cursor. It less janky and I like that it wait until generation is done before asking you if you want to apply the suggested the changes instead of loading them into your file right after like cursor does. Also you can apply at cursor which is nice for snippets. The Builder tool is probably the best feature of Trae. It builds React UIs better than any tool even v0 which is built for building React UIs. It very good at recreating UI from image even better than using the model directly which I'm not too sure how... Code completion is probably closer to copilot than cursor so it depends on how hardcore you like your AI code completion. So Cursor might be better especially for repetitive refactoring. The overall design and feel of Trae is better the VS Code and Cursor, but I'm a big fan of JetBrains and it feel a lot like a JetBrains IDE.
- tnt128 2y ago
  Ah. Thx for the break down.
- handfuloflight 2y ago
  Would you choose this over JetBrains?
  - impulser_ 2y ago
    No, because I like debuggers but if you don't care about debuggers than I would. It's basically a better Fleet. In fact, it's if Fleet and VS Code had a baby lol.
    - verdverm 2y ago
      Does Jetbrains have a language agnostic IDE? Their page makes it look like you need to pick one specific to a language, but I have repos with multiple languages Like why does this page even exist? https://www.jetbrains.com/ides/#choose-your-ide https://www.jetbrains.com/ides/#choose-your-ide
      - 2y ago

cedws 2y ago

This won’t be a popular opinion here on HN but I think it’s the beginning of the end for Western hegemony. Asia is powering full steam ahead while we sit idle. We have much lower social cohesion and it’s getting worse all the time. We’re becoming lower trust societies. We don’t incentivise building enough. Success is considered having enough capital to sit back and generate more capital while contributing nothing back to society. At the forefront of our politicians’ minds are how many genders there are. In the UK just building a new high speed railway has practically been the Manhattan project. Will we get back on track? I think the chances of that are rapidly diminishing.

wordofx 2y ago
Well the west is too busy trying to answer the question “what is a woman” and allowing mass migration into their countries. While Asia is like “there’s men and woman, and we make it hard for you to live in our country and never get citizenship while we out build you in every aspect”
- repeekad 2y ago
  what's funny is debating about "what is a woman" vs having to work 6 days a week 6 to 9pm, I know which country I'd rather live in
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
shigawire 2y ago
>At the forefront of our politicians’ minds are how many genders there are. This seems so irrelevant. Why do you think reactionary politics will lead to more innovation?
- guappa 2y ago
  I don't think you understood his comment.