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I feel silly asking, but what do you use 10gig for? That speed sounds insane; I get maybe 800mbps and I've basically never felt like the speed is too slow. Most

I feel silly asking, but what do you use 10gig for? That speed sounds insane; I get maybe 800mbps and I've basically never felt like the speed is too slow. Most consumer devices are still on gigabit Ethernet at the fastest, no - or am I just badly out of date? Heck, anywhere above a few gigs, I feel like you'd start getting bottlenecked by whatever's on the other end of the connection. Still, pretty cool to hear that the option exists!

andersa 2y ago
There are many use cases: - Download games from Steam - Download or upload AI models and datasets from Huggingface and similar - Any kind of remote work where you are regularly working with multi GB files A little server I just put inside my apartment has dual 10Gb/s ethernet ports.
climb_stealth 2y ago
It's always interesting to read these discussions from a misdeveloped country like Australia. Where symmetric broadband is a pipe dream. And the lived reality in the city is 100Mps down and something like 17Mbps up. I mean it still works for everything. But in comparison other people are living in some kind of techno utopia. At least our banking system is modern so we can pay for our shitty internet without having to fax cheques /s
- codazoda 2y ago
  100Mbps? That does put it in perspective. We gotta design our sites first this y’all.
  - saagarjha 2y ago
    There are people who have 1 Mbps connections too.
zamadatix 2y ago
Anything which is front ended by a CDN tends to end up faster than your connection for even the fastest connections. That leaves most of the web, updates (Microsoft/Apple/Google), content services like Steam or cloud storage/backup providers, and centralized piracy like Usenet (decentralized like torrents obviously vary per the seeds for each torrent). It's certainly convenient my games, AI models, cloud backups, and large file downloads tend to go many times faster than when I had gigabit but I'd by no means be crying on the sides of the road about how long things take to upload/download if I had to go back. The biggest thing you'll run into is algorithms designed to increase performance for limited connections don't scale infinitely. E.g. updating games on the Epic Games Store tends to be core limited (even on an overclocked 9800X3D) rather than bandwidth limited because it puts so much effort into the encryption and differential updating with the assumption "it'll be fast enough to not worry about". Even in those cases... it's nice to max them out without even having contention on everything else you're doing.
yieldcrv 2y ago
I get up to 90 megabytes/s download over wifi at my current place, and decent upload. I don't use it much, I just appreciate that I can do it quickly for the last year I've been downloading Large Language Models through LM Studio's Huggingface browser, and I'm glad I can do that quickly and pirating movies and tv shows again other things that rely on some data don't get disrupted either I'd like to run some service from my place, but I probably won't.
macshome 2y ago
For a lot of people the benefits show up because they have more devices sharing that connection. Before our kids moved to school we had 5 people on our home connection. Each with multiple devices, all trying to work or play games or stream content at the same time. For one person with one computer it’s probably delightful overkill. For a modern family unit it can make everyone happy.
- sfilmeyer 2y ago
  But even for your 5 people, a gigabit is plenty to all stream content at the same time, right? How often are all 5 people trying to download a 5 gigabyte file at the same time such that they collectively really benefit from more than a gigabit?
  - eptcyka 2y ago
    [flagged]
rayiner 2y ago
I’ve got 10 gig with 5 millisecond ping to Ashburn (Comcast’s gigabit x10, so it’s a full 10 gig port to the head end, not PON) and web surfing still sucks because JavaScript.
- rockwotj 2y ago
  Are you surfing the web on a toaster? I only run into network bottlenecks or pages that suck because it loads tons of ads, which isn’t a javascript issue really. Yeah its not Wasm fast, and JS has some terrible stuff from a language perspective, but I don’t blame a slow web on Javascript. Certainly not for everyday browsing
  - klooney 2y ago
    Anything that's not a < 3 year old MacBook Pro tends to chug.
  - rayiner 2y ago
    MacBook Air M3.
manquer 2y ago
So many resources are large , the last deepseek model was 700Gb, games can easily run into hundreds of gbs these days. Just updating Xcode can be 10Gb High speed internet opens up new use cases open up , for example, if I had a 10 gig symmetrical connection I could run my own self hosted CI runner for free* with my old hardware lying about and recoup my investment. Any sort of spatial computing will need lot more speed and/or local assets to be useful - with today’s speed all we can reliably get is what Facebook is doing with metaverse .
csomar 2y ago
Not 10 gig but I am on an apartment with 1gig down. It made a difference when I downloaded deepseek the other day. It took a few minutes instead of hours/days. I think if you have a family with a couple kids it can come in handy when everyone tries to connect online. Kids can be downloading games/streaming, you working and partner video-calling on high res. It is not a necessity but a nicety.
rconti 2y ago
> what do you use 10gig for? Nothing, really! It's cheaper than 1gig, and my ISP doesn't even give me the option of paying for less. I could save about $10 a month to downgrade to AT&T 300Mbps fiber though (which would have data caps, bad privacy policy). I'd be happy down to say 250/250. Gigabit feels like "all I could ever need" (for now), and 10gig is fantasyland.

andersa 2y ago

There are many use cases: - Download games from Steam - Download or upload AI models and datasets from Huggingface and similar - Any kind of remote work where you are regularly working with multi GB files A little server I just put inside my apartment has dual 10Gb/s ethernet ports.

climb_stealth 2y ago

It's always interesting to read these discussions from a misdeveloped country like Australia. Where symmetric broadband is a pipe dream. And the lived reality in the city is 100Mps down and something like 17Mbps up. I mean it still works for everything. But in comparison other people are living in some kind of techno utopia. At least our banking system is modern so we can pay for our shitty internet without having to fax cheques /s

codazoda 2y ago
100Mbps? That does put it in perspective. We gotta design our sites first this y’all.
- saagarjha 2y ago
  There are people who have 1 Mbps connections too.

zamadatix 2y ago

Anything which is front ended by a CDN tends to end up faster than your connection for even the fastest connections. That leaves most of the web, updates (Microsoft/Apple/Google), content services like Steam or cloud storage/backup providers, and centralized piracy like Usenet (decentralized like torrents obviously vary per the seeds for each torrent). It's certainly convenient my games, AI models, cloud backups, and large file downloads tend to go many times faster than when I had gigabit but I'd by no means be crying on the sides of the road about how long things take to upload/download if I had to go back. The biggest thing you'll run into is algorithms designed to increase performance for limited connections don't scale infinitely. E.g. updating games on the Epic Games Store tends to be core limited (even on an overclocked 9800X3D) rather than bandwidth limited because it puts so much effort into the encryption and differential updating with the assumption "it'll be fast enough to not worry about". Even in those cases... it's nice to max them out without even having contention on everything else you're doing.

yieldcrv 2y ago

I get up to 90 megabytes/s download over wifi at my current place, and decent upload. I don't use it much, I just appreciate that I can do it quickly for the last year I've been downloading Large Language Models through LM Studio's Huggingface browser, and I'm glad I can do that quickly and pirating movies and tv shows again other things that rely on some data don't get disrupted either I'd like to run some service from my place, but I probably won't.

macshome 2y ago

For a lot of people the benefits show up because they have more devices sharing that connection. Before our kids moved to school we had 5 people on our home connection. Each with multiple devices, all trying to work or play games or stream content at the same time. For one person with one computer it’s probably delightful overkill. For a modern family unit it can make everyone happy.

sfilmeyer 2y ago
But even for your 5 people, a gigabit is plenty to all stream content at the same time, right? How often are all 5 people trying to download a 5 gigabyte file at the same time such that they collectively really benefit from more than a gigabit?
- eptcyka 2y ago
  [flagged]

rayiner 2y ago

I’ve got 10 gig with 5 millisecond ping to Ashburn (Comcast’s gigabit x10, so it’s a full 10 gig port to the head end, not PON) and web surfing still sucks because JavaScript.

rockwotj 2y ago
Are you surfing the web on a toaster? I only run into network bottlenecks or pages that suck because it loads tons of ads, which isn’t a javascript issue really. Yeah its not Wasm fast, and JS has some terrible stuff from a language perspective, but I don’t blame a slow web on Javascript. Certainly not for everyday browsing
- klooney 2y ago
  Anything that's not a < 3 year old MacBook Pro tends to chug.
- rayiner 2y ago
  MacBook Air M3.

manquer 2y ago

So many resources are large , the last deepseek model was 700Gb, games can easily run into hundreds of gbs these days. Just updating Xcode can be 10Gb High speed internet opens up new use cases open up , for example, if I had a 10 gig symmetrical connection I could run my own self hosted CI runner for free* with my old hardware lying about and recoup my investment. Any sort of spatial computing will need lot more speed and/or local assets to be useful - with today’s speed all we can reliably get is what Facebook is doing with metaverse .

csomar 2y ago

Not 10 gig but I am on an apartment with 1gig down. It made a difference when I downloaded deepseek the other day. It took a few minutes instead of hours/days. I think if you have a family with a couple kids it can come in handy when everyone tries to connect online. Kids can be downloading games/streaming, you working and partner video-calling on high res. It is not a necessity but a nicety.

rconti 2y ago

> what do you use 10gig for? Nothing, really! It's cheaper than 1gig, and my ISP doesn't even give me the option of paying for less. I could save about $10 a month to downgrade to AT&T 300Mbps fiber though (which would have data caps, bad privacy policy). I'd be happy down to say 250/250. Gigabit feels like "all I could ever need" (for now), and 10gig is fantasyland.