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History doesn't have robot armies.

• walterbell 2y ago
  History has news about hackers.
  • rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
    And that's supposed to do what exactly here?
    • walterbell 2y ago
      You're posting on a website called Hacker News, with countless HN discussions of security exploits of shipping products. Any recommendations on vendors of unhackable robots, a.k.a. computers?
      • rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
        > I don't think it will be a whole bunch longer than that when AI systems are better than humans at almost everything. Better than almost all humans at almost everything. And then eventually better than all humans at everything, even robotics." > Amodei also spoke some about the potential implications of highly intelligent AI systems when these AI models can control advanced robotics. "[If] we make good enough AI systems, they'll enable us to make better robots. And so when that happens, we will need to have a conversation..." Good luck... I'm sure some altruistic individuals will "hack" things so you don't need to be worried.
        • walterbell 2y ago
          If the power of _some_ humans depends on robots+AI, and there is a long track record of computers/vehicles being hacked, then there is economic incentive for competing humans to hack robots, including but not limited to competing AI systems. For a fictional treatment of this topic, see Jonathan Nolan's Person of Interest, which begins with one supercomputer, but ends with competing supercomputers and their competing human owners in an endless arms race. The incentives in this scenario are power, not altruism.
          • rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
            > economic incentive for competing humans That's assuming there are competing humans left and economic gain to be had.
            • walterbell 2y ago
              > economic gain to be had Humans have one or two incentives beyond economics. > assuming there are competing humans left Indeed, one possible scenario is zero humans left.
• gizajob 2y ago
  We’ve been able to nuke one another into oblivion for decades now. Constructing robot armies to do this better but worse is a huge hassle.
  • rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
    How is it a hassle? The machines can build and improve on themselves. When there's very little economic reason to keep most people around. Then you just need enough force to keep people from taking what is yours and wait it out. No need to hunt anyone down indiscriminately. Plus, nukes generally have been controlled by governments and mass use of them leaves little left for those in power and a whole lot of work for them.
    • walterbell 2y ago
      > [nukes] mass use Modern arsenals include a range of targetable weapons. Hopefully the "strategies" of would-be predators are not based on AI hallucinations.
      • rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
        It's really helpful for discussion if you've read the article the thread is based on btw.
        • walterbell 2y ago
          Does the article include a statement about hallucinations? It does include this "... then magic happens" speculation: [If] we make good enough AI systems
          • rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
            Yeah so maybe within the context of the article it's presuming hallucination issues have been addressed? Hmmm, curious.