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Wait until you learn about the first unscientific politicized traitor to Freedom in the USA. General George Washington, having survived smallpox himself, ordere

Wait until you learn about the first unscientific politicized traitor to Freedom in the USA. General George Washington, having survived smallpox himself, ordered the mass variolation (via inoculation, much more dangerous than a vaccine) of the Continental Army to protect troops from the disease, marking one of the first large-scale public health initiatives in American history.

refurb 2y ago
Inoculating the military isn’t public health. Nobody would call today’s military vaccines a “public health program”, its military readiness. The word “public” is key. You know, the overall population.
- _DeadFred_ 2y ago
  I thought this was a militia made up of the public, so a modern comparison would be anyone in the current USA who happens to execute their second amendment rights?
  - refurb 2y ago
    I'm sorry, what?
BurningFrog 2y ago
Pretty sure that would bee illegal in several ways today.
- Jtsummers 2y ago
  Members of the US military actually get more vaccines and, until recently, had fewer protections with respect to declining them than the typical US citizen (specifically with COVID, Trump has indicated, not sure if he's done it yet, that he'll reinstate people who refused a lawful order to be vaccinated for it; so now I guess they can just refuse any vaccines even if it impacts readiness). During the run up to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, US service members were vaccinated for smallpox (appropriate for this thread). That was this century, 30+ years after smallpox was declared eradicated. They were also vaccinated for other diseases. Join the military and you sign away a lot of your rights (arguably for some good benefits, but we'll see how the new VA head and others treat the veterans and current troops).
  - BurningFrog 2y ago
    I was mostly thinking of how today you'd need three levels of clinical studies and an FDA approval. The war would be over long before that process concluded. Or maybe the military can decide to order unapproved vaccines?
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refurb 2y ago

Inoculating the military isn’t public health. Nobody would call today’s military vaccines a “public health program”, its military readiness. The word “public” is key. You know, the overall population.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago
I thought this was a militia made up of the public, so a modern comparison would be anyone in the current USA who happens to execute their second amendment rights?
- refurb 2y ago
  I'm sorry, what?

BurningFrog 2y ago

Pretty sure that would bee illegal in several ways today.

Jtsummers 2y ago
Members of the US military actually get more vaccines and, until recently, had fewer protections with respect to declining them than the typical US citizen (specifically with COVID, Trump has indicated, not sure if he's done it yet, that he'll reinstate people who refused a lawful order to be vaccinated for it; so now I guess they can just refuse any vaccines even if it impacts readiness). During the run up to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, US service members were vaccinated for smallpox (appropriate for this thread). That was this century, 30+ years after smallpox was declared eradicated. They were also vaccinated for other diseases. Join the military and you sign away a lot of your rights (arguably for some good benefits, but we'll see how the new VA head and others treat the veterans and current troops).
- BurningFrog 2y ago
  I was mostly thinking of how today you'd need three levels of clinical studies and an FDA approval. The war would be over long before that process concluded. Or maybe the military can decide to order unapproved vaccines?
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