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"This guy is running around giving everyone pardons. The funny thing, maybe the sad thing, is he didn’t give himself a pardon. And if you look at it, it all had

"This guy is running around giving everyone pardons. The funny thing, maybe the sad thing, is he didn’t give himself a pardon. And if you look at it, it all had to do with him." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-hannity-interview-biden-pardons-b2684659.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... I fully expect Trump to ruin Biden's final years with investigations and court cases. Maybe that's not out right execution, but Trump definitely wants revenge.

groby_b 2y ago
Sure. But that is, for better or worse, perfectly legal. (No, I'm not saying it's great, but I'm saying this is still within non-dictatorship realms) Whereas executions have a small issue in that area.
johnnyanmac 2y ago
I don't think even Trump wants to call in the constitutional landmark case of a president pardoning himself. That'd be true chaos. >I fully expect Trump to ruin Biden's final years with investigations and court cases I'm still 50/50 on if Trump makes it that far, physically. He's older than when Biden ran his administration and not exactly in the best health. But I guess they did get Regean through his last years. Nothing's impossible.
- pstuart 2y ago
  > That'd be true chaos. We've crossed the Rubicon.
HideousKojima 2y ago
I mean if Biden actually was making corrupt deals trading influence/access for money then he absolutely should be investigated and prosecuted for it. And there's already hard proof that Hunter was selling access to his father, and that the foreigners he was selling said access to believed he could actually provide it. If we didn't have the DOJ and other institutions protecting Biden for the last several years it would be pretty easy to find out if he actually did sell influence (vs. Hunter deceiving the people he was making deals with) with just a couple of warrants and subpeonas.
- archagon 2y ago
  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/former-fbi-informant-to-plead-guilty-to-lying-about-fake-bribery-scheme-involving-the-bidens https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/former-fbi-informa...
  - HideousKojima 2y ago
    Which has nothing to do with the hard evidence on Hunter's laptop
refurb 2y ago
He ran on “lock her up” in 2016 and never followed through. I find it hilarious that everyone is scared of Trump when there was a concerted effort by the other side to use the justice system to stop him from ever running again. Need I remind everyone of multi-year Russiagate investigation that was all made up? The misdemeanor charges that becomes felonies with massive fines? The media collusion to silence the Hunter Biden laptop story when the FBI knew at the time it was real? It’s the pot calling the kettle black. It’s the thieves accusing everyone else of stealing.
- krapp 2y ago
  All made up? You're thinking of the Benghazi hearings, which were admitted to be nothing but a smear campaign by the Republicans[0]. "Russiagate" meanwhile found plenty of stuff[1]. [0]https://www.vox.com/2015/9/30/9423339/kevin-mccarthy-benghazi https://www.vox.com/2015/9/30/9423339/kevin-mccarthy-benghaz... [1]https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/ https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigati...
  - refurb 2y ago
    Yes, the Steele Dossier which the entire Russiagate investigation was based on was fake and funded by Hillary Clinton. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-2022-midterm-elections-business-elections-presidential-elections-5468774d18e8c46f81b55e9260b13e93 https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-2022-midterm-elect... Four years and immense government resources were wasted investigating the President calling him a "tool of the Russian government". And the "plenty of stuff" found? "Undisclosed contacts" and "obstruction of the investigation". What a massive flop.
- ropetin 2y ago
  > I find it hilarious that everyone is scared of Trump when there was a concerted effort by the other side to use the justice system to stop him from ever running again. I honestly don't get what you mean by this. Lets say all your comments about Biden, the FBI, laptops and whatever else are 100% true. How does that change if I should be worried about stuff Trump might do? To use a totally extreme example, if John Wayne Gacy went around talking all the shit in the world about Jeffrey Dahmer, does that somehow make Dahmer not a serial killer? > He ran on “lock her up” in 2016 and never followed through. So that proves he lies and makes promises he can't/won't/doesn't keep? Is that a positive trait in a politician? How are we supposed to determine when he is 'just joshing, bro' and actually is being truthful? And yes, I know Biden and the dems also make promises they don't keep, but again that doesn't excuse Trump from doing the same.

groby_b 2y ago

Sure. But that is, for better or worse, perfectly legal. (No, I'm not saying it's great, but I'm saying this is still within non-dictatorship realms) Whereas executions have a small issue in that area.

johnnyanmac 2y ago

I don't think even Trump wants to call in the constitutional landmark case of a president pardoning himself. That'd be true chaos. >I fully expect Trump to ruin Biden's final years with investigations and court cases I'm still 50/50 on if Trump makes it that far, physically. He's older than when Biden ran his administration and not exactly in the best health. But I guess they did get Regean through his last years. Nothing's impossible.

pstuart 2y ago
> That'd be true chaos. We've crossed the Rubicon.

HideousKojima 2y ago

I mean if Biden actually was making corrupt deals trading influence/access for money then he absolutely should be investigated and prosecuted for it. And there's already hard proof that Hunter was selling access to his father, and that the foreigners he was selling said access to believed he could actually provide it. If we didn't have the DOJ and other institutions protecting Biden for the last several years it would be pretty easy to find out if he actually did sell influence (vs. Hunter deceiving the people he was making deals with) with just a couple of warrants and subpeonas.

archagon 2y ago
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/former-fbi-informant-to-plead-guilty-to-lying-about-fake-bribery-scheme-involving-the-bidens https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/former-fbi-informa...
- HideousKojima 2y ago
  Which has nothing to do with the hard evidence on Hunter's laptop

refurb 2y ago

He ran on “lock her up” in 2016 and never followed through. I find it hilarious that everyone is scared of Trump when there was a concerted effort by the other side to use the justice system to stop him from ever running again. Need I remind everyone of multi-year Russiagate investigation that was all made up? The misdemeanor charges that becomes felonies with massive fines? The media collusion to silence the Hunter Biden laptop story when the FBI knew at the time it was real? It’s the pot calling the kettle black. It’s the thieves accusing everyone else of stealing.

krapp 2y ago
All made up? You're thinking of the Benghazi hearings, which were admitted to be nothing but a smear campaign by the Republicans[0]. "Russiagate" meanwhile found plenty of stuff[1]. [0]https://www.vox.com/2015/9/30/9423339/kevin-mccarthy-benghazi https://www.vox.com/2015/9/30/9423339/kevin-mccarthy-benghaz... [1]https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/ https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigati...
- refurb 2y ago
  Yes, the Steele Dossier which the entire Russiagate investigation was based on was fake and funded by Hillary Clinton. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-2022-midterm-elections-business-elections-presidential-elections-5468774d18e8c46f81b55e9260b13e93 https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-2022-midterm-elect... Four years and immense government resources were wasted investigating the President calling him a "tool of the Russian government". And the "plenty of stuff" found? "Undisclosed contacts" and "obstruction of the investigation". What a massive flop.
ropetin 2y ago
> I find it hilarious that everyone is scared of Trump when there was a concerted effort by the other side to use the justice system to stop him from ever running again. I honestly don't get what you mean by this. Lets say all your comments about Biden, the FBI, laptops and whatever else are 100% true. How does that change if I should be worried about stuff Trump might do? To use a totally extreme example, if John Wayne Gacy went around talking all the shit in the world about Jeffrey Dahmer, does that somehow make Dahmer not a serial killer? > He ran on “lock her up” in 2016 and never followed through. So that proves he lies and makes promises he can't/won't/doesn't keep? Is that a positive trait in a politician? How are we supposed to determine when he is 'just joshing, bro' and actually is being truthful? And yes, I know Biden and the dems also make promises they don't keep, but again that doesn't excuse Trump from doing the same.