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I don't know if they are more competent now. There are just fewer people willing to push back, and few to no guardrails in place for when the leader doesn't adh

I don't know if they are more competent now. There are just fewer people willing to push back, and few to no guardrails in place for when the leader doesn't adhere to the usual governmental and ethical norms.

Jerrrry 2y ago
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- rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
  Nonplussed here. In what way is normality returning to the social order? Or are you pegging the 'normal' social order to some particular time in the past?
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    - krapp 2y ago
      It's weird that people like you use dyeing hair as some kind of shorthand for radical leftist ideology as if you stepped out of a time portal from the 1950s. Zoe Quinn really did a number on you guys, didn't she?
      - Jerrrry 2y ago
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        mindslight 2y ago
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        Jerrrry 2y ago
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        anonfordays 2y ago
        >Thank you so much for fucking up my son's future, and doing your best to destroy our country that you apparently have been groomed to hate so much. I literally just bought a new vertical tiller for some backyard food plots as a hedge against just how bad things may get, because you people couldn't be bothered to listen to reasoned criticism of what you were actually doing. And don't think I don't know your frustration - I've been reading reactionary analysis long before the term deep state entered pop culture. This is the exact same screed I see from right-wingers write when the left gets elected, almost verbatim.
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        rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
        Possessing a persecution complex and actually experiencing persecuion are separate things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion
        anonfordays 2y ago
        Indeed, just because one dellusionally believes they are presecuted, does not mean they are. People have been memeing and satirizing leftist about this for decades at this rate, "oppression Olympics" and such. More recently, "Rugged. Vegan. Compassionate. Victim": https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=arw1pcqLI_M https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=arw1pcqLI_M
        rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
        Understand that it is not an exclusive concept for particular side in the political spectrum. I find it curious that you associate terms like "rugged", "vegan" and "compassionate" with a particular leaning on the political spectrum.
    - rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
      I'm pretty sure the current administration has already shown themselves willing to abandon many previous established norms formed over the history of the US so I am not entirely convinced this is returning to "normalcy". Well maybe authoritarianism is is the 'natural' place that the social order tends to.
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arp242 2y ago
I guess it depends on what you mean with "competent". In essence their pitch is that government is bad, so from that sense "competent" means "able to burn these institutions down". From that perspective these people do seem more "competent" in various ways: there is less chaos, a better sense on how to use the legal means, more focus. Trump may be a unfocused bumbling fool, but the Project 2025 people aren't. This is not my (and presumably your) definition of "competent", which would be "able to run these institutions well", or something along those lines. And since it seems there isn't any real accountability any more other than anything that is strictly legally imposed, anything that goes wrong in this process is just blamed on the democrats, deep state, or whatever. Or its simply denied that the problems exists in the first place.
- jcgrillo 2y ago
  This was the sense in which I was using the word "competent", thanks for clarifying. What I meant was now they are better able to realize their destructive vision, but insofar as I can tell its mostly the same vision as it ever was.

Jerrrry 2y ago

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rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
Nonplussed here. In what way is normality returning to the social order? Or are you pegging the 'normal' social order to some particular time in the past?
- Jerrrry 2y ago
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  - krapp 2y ago
    It's weird that people like you use dyeing hair as some kind of shorthand for radical leftist ideology as if you stepped out of a time portal from the 1950s. Zoe Quinn really did a number on you guys, didn't she?
    - Jerrrry 2y ago
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        Jerrrry 2y ago
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        anonfordays 2y ago
        >Thank you so much for fucking up my son's future, and doing your best to destroy our country that you apparently have been groomed to hate so much. I literally just bought a new vertical tiller for some backyard food plots as a hedge against just how bad things may get, because you people couldn't be bothered to listen to reasoned criticism of what you were actually doing. And don't think I don't know your frustration - I've been reading reactionary analysis long before the term deep state entered pop culture. This is the exact same screed I see from right-wingers write when the left gets elected, almost verbatim.
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        rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
        Possessing a persecution complex and actually experiencing persecuion are separate things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion
        anonfordays 2y ago
        Indeed, just because one dellusionally believes they are presecuted, does not mean they are. People have been memeing and satirizing leftist about this for decades at this rate, "oppression Olympics" and such. More recently, "Rugged. Vegan. Compassionate. Victim": https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=arw1pcqLI_M https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=arw1pcqLI_M
        rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
        Understand that it is not an exclusive concept for particular side in the political spectrum. I find it curious that you associate terms like "rugged", "vegan" and "compassionate" with a particular leaning on the political spectrum.
  - rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
    I'm pretty sure the current administration has already shown themselves willing to abandon many previous established norms formed over the history of the US so I am not entirely convinced this is returning to "normalcy". Well maybe authoritarianism is is the 'natural' place that the social order tends to.
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arp242 2y ago

I guess it depends on what you mean with "competent". In essence their pitch is that government is bad, so from that sense "competent" means "able to burn these institutions down". From that perspective these people do seem more "competent" in various ways: there is less chaos, a better sense on how to use the legal means, more focus. Trump may be a unfocused bumbling fool, but the Project 2025 people aren't. This is not my (and presumably your) definition of "competent", which would be "able to run these institutions well", or something along those lines. And since it seems there isn't any real accountability any more other than anything that is strictly legally imposed, anything that goes wrong in this process is just blamed on the democrats, deep state, or whatever. Or its simply denied that the problems exists in the first place.

jcgrillo 2y ago
This was the sense in which I was using the word "competent", thanks for clarifying. What I meant was now they are better able to realize their destructive vision, but insofar as I can tell its mostly the same vision as it ever was.