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The largest hotels around, like Caesars Palace, might have 4000 rooms. So if they had, for example, a 10 Gbps link for the building - that's only 2.5 Mbps per
by michaelt 2y ago
The largest hotels around, like Caesars Palace, might have 4000 rooms.
So if they had, for example, a 10 Gbps link for the building - that's only 2.5 Mbps per room if everyone wants to use it. Fine when 98% of guests don't want to use it, totally inadequate if all your guests want to use it.
And as I understand things, if someone's offering you a 10 gigabit link for $150 they're relying on you only using it a tiny % of the time. So if you put your 4000 room hotel on a Google Fiber link you'll probably run into the secret download limits after a day or two. And the price for a non-oversold 10-gigabit link seems to be "call our enterprise sales team for pricing"
- cyberax 2y agoAmazon during re:Invent somehow manages to set up fast WiFi networks that service literally tens of thousands of attendees. It's a skill issue from the hotel owners. They can't be bothered to fix their stuff.
- baby_souffle 2y agoI can't speak for Amazon 's team directly but for large events on that scale, totally reasonable to have your own links brought to the facility. For a casino, they probably already have spare conduit or dark fiber to a close by POP so they don't even need LoS microwave links. Efficiently distributing all of that bandwidth across the many, many, many different wireless access points efficiently is an art and science all on its own and that's probably the aspect most people are complaining about.
- michaelt 2y agoI'd love to know more about how Amazon do that. How much does it cost to get a 100+ gigabit link set up for a 4 day long event?
- cyberax 2y agoNo idea about the cost, there were some tidbits from 10 years ago: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/the-aws-cloud-goes-underground-at-reinvent/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/the-aws-cloud-goes-undergro...
- linsomniac 2y agoNot sure about 100gig, but hotels charge crazy amounts of money for Internet entrance. They like provide it themselves, but if you insist on running your own they will happily charge you to give you access to the various parts of the hotel you'll need to make it happen. I haven't been involved in the last decade, but I'm kind of known as "the guy that makes PyCon networking work", and it can easily be $5K to $10K (from memory) for the hotel, even if you are providing all your own connectivity and gear. I haven't had to do it in recent years because venue Internet has gotten much, much better.
- LordDragonfang 2y agoI mean, no one is expecting commercial-grade fiber at residential prices, but even taking that into account, these hotels (which are almost all owned by 3 companies) can afford to drop a few dozen grand a month on internet and not even notice the bill