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I feel like a lot of the results from the carnivore diet can easily be reproduced by just completely cutting out processed sugar from your diet.

by isk517 2y ago

tiffanyh 2y ago
At the end of the day, it's all about calories. The appeal of the carnivore diet is, you can eat as much as you want - so long as it's only meat. The trick is, meat is actually fairly low in calories and protein (meat) is extremely filling. So you're achieving a calorie deficit without being hungry.
- anotherhue 2y ago
  Eh, not quite. The microbiome is a quickly emerging and remarkably complex system. The calorie values on food are 'bomb-calorific', which is about as far from what goes in your gut as possible. 'Bio-availabilty' is the term to look up.
- ASalazarMX 2y ago
  > The trick is, meat is actually fairly low in calories and protein (meat) is extremely filling. What? Meat, from fish to chicken to beef, is one of the most caloric foods, rivaled only by nuts and oils. Meat usually is high in fat, it's very hard for it to be low-calorie. The weight loss doesn't come from a low-calorie diet, but from forced ketosis due to prolonged lack of glucose. As others hace said, it's the carb deprivation that makes you lose weight, you could easily do a vegetarian diet and lose the same or more weight without abusing fat and rising your bad cholesterol.
  - tiffanyh 2y ago
    210 calories - serving of grilled chicken 324 calories - serving of granola cereal One of those is way more filling & less calories than the other. https://www.eatthismuch.com/calories/one-grilled-chicken-breast-6-oz-4556605 https://www.eatthismuch.com/calories/one-grilled-chicken-bre... https://www.mynetdiary.com/food/calories-in-breakfast-granola-with-milk-by-joma-bakery-cafe-serving-21354754-0.html https://www.mynetdiary.com/food/calories-in-breakfast-granol...
  - zero-sharp 2y ago
    >The weight loss doesn't come from a low-calorie diet, but from forced ketosis due to prolonged lack of glucose. Lol what the fuck? and yes, meat and foods high in fiber are satiating. That's common knowledge.
  - kcplate 2y ago
    > Meat usually is high in fat, it's very hard for it to be low-calorie. The weight loss doesn't come from a low-calorie diet For me, eating a keto diet makes it easy to achieve a daily caloric intake that is significantly less than other diets I have tried because of meat being high in fat it creates greater satiety that lasts longer. Most keto and carnivore diets result it being easier to achieve caloric deficits for that reason. There may be some out there that increase caloric consumption (and usually do for the first couple of weeks of the diet) but soon after your body adapts to fat for energy, you tend to eat much less in my experience. So if you are religiously tracking (and I have for 8 years now), you will find that your weight loss under keto also abides by CICO rules. Ketosis is helping to burn your fat stores, and it’s easier to get there because you are not eating carbs, but your body is burning fat stores because it has a calorie deficit. Even if you are in ketosis, never eating a carb, but not in a caloric deficit, you simply will not lose weight.
- agnivade 2y ago
  > At the end of the day, it's all about calories. No it's not. Calories is just a unit of energy. And there are good energy sources, and bad ones as well. It's not just one single factor that rules everything. Quality and variety of food matters a lot.
sneak 2y ago
No, ketosis is a thing. Potatoes and brown rice aren’t processed sugar but will prevent ketosis sure as anything. Carbs are the devil. They’re also my primary calorie source after years in ketosis because cholesterol is also a killer.
MrSkelter 2y ago
Most of the supposed magic is simply eating high protein and fat and getting sated. These diets work for people who will not stop eating until they feel full. As that fullness takes so much longer with processed sugary foods they consume too many calories. It’s very hard to consume 2,000 calories of red meat in one sitting. The idea eating meat alone is healthy is totally spurious.

I feel like a lot of the results from the carnivore diet can easily be reproduced by just completely cutting out processed sugar from your diet.

by isk517 2y ago

I feel like a lot of the results from the carnivore diet can easily be reproduced by just completely cutting out processed sugar from your diet.

tiffanyh 2y ago

At the end of the day, it's all about calories. The appeal of the carnivore diet is, you can eat as much as you want - so long as it's only meat. The trick is, meat is actually fairly low in calories and protein (meat) is extremely filling. So you're achieving a calorie deficit without being hungry.

anotherhue 2y ago
Eh, not quite. The microbiome is a quickly emerging and remarkably complex system. The calorie values on food are 'bomb-calorific', which is about as far from what goes in your gut as possible. 'Bio-availabilty' is the term to look up.
ASalazarMX 2y ago
> The trick is, meat is actually fairly low in calories and protein (meat) is extremely filling. What? Meat, from fish to chicken to beef, is one of the most caloric foods, rivaled only by nuts and oils. Meat usually is high in fat, it's very hard for it to be low-calorie. The weight loss doesn't come from a low-calorie diet, but from forced ketosis due to prolonged lack of glucose. As others hace said, it's the carb deprivation that makes you lose weight, you could easily do a vegetarian diet and lose the same or more weight without abusing fat and rising your bad cholesterol.
- tiffanyh 2y ago
  210 calories - serving of grilled chicken 324 calories - serving of granola cereal One of those is way more filling & less calories than the other. https://www.eatthismuch.com/calories/one-grilled-chicken-breast-6-oz-4556605 https://www.eatthismuch.com/calories/one-grilled-chicken-bre... https://www.mynetdiary.com/food/calories-in-breakfast-granola-with-milk-by-joma-bakery-cafe-serving-21354754-0.html https://www.mynetdiary.com/food/calories-in-breakfast-granol...
- zero-sharp 2y ago
  >The weight loss doesn't come from a low-calorie diet, but from forced ketosis due to prolonged lack of glucose. Lol what the fuck? and yes, meat and foods high in fiber are satiating. That's common knowledge.
- kcplate 2y ago
  > Meat usually is high in fat, it's very hard for it to be low-calorie. The weight loss doesn't come from a low-calorie diet For me, eating a keto diet makes it easy to achieve a daily caloric intake that is significantly less than other diets I have tried because of meat being high in fat it creates greater satiety that lasts longer. Most keto and carnivore diets result it being easier to achieve caloric deficits for that reason. There may be some out there that increase caloric consumption (and usually do for the first couple of weeks of the diet) but soon after your body adapts to fat for energy, you tend to eat much less in my experience. So if you are religiously tracking (and I have for 8 years now), you will find that your weight loss under keto also abides by CICO rules. Ketosis is helping to burn your fat stores, and it’s easier to get there because you are not eating carbs, but your body is burning fat stores because it has a calorie deficit. Even if you are in ketosis, never eating a carb, but not in a caloric deficit, you simply will not lose weight.
agnivade 2y ago
> At the end of the day, it's all about calories. No it's not. Calories is just a unit of energy. And there are good energy sources, and bad ones as well. It's not just one single factor that rules everything. Quality and variety of food matters a lot.

sneak 2y ago

No, ketosis is a thing. Potatoes and brown rice aren’t processed sugar but will prevent ketosis sure as anything. Carbs are the devil. They’re also my primary calorie source after years in ketosis because cholesterol is also a killer.

MrSkelter 2y ago

Most of the supposed magic is simply eating high protein and fat and getting sated. These diets work for people who will not stop eating until they feel full. As that fullness takes so much longer with processed sugary foods they consume too many calories. It’s very hard to consume 2,000 calories of red meat in one sitting. The idea eating meat alone is healthy is totally spurious.