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This sort of advice is parodied in "Yes, Prime Minister" as the 4 step strategy for "crisis management" 1: Don't worry, nothing's going to happen. 2: Somethin

by gopalv 2y ago

This sort of advice is parodied in "Yes, Prime Minister" as the 4 step strategy for "crisis management" 1: Don't worry, nothing's going to happen. 2: Something may be happen but we should wait and see 3: Maybe we should do something about it, but there is no clear action 4: Maybe there was something we could've done, but it's too late now Stringing along a bunch of people who think they are being heard and listened to when you are not is a morale killer when the tide goes out & we see who's been swimming naked.

senkora 2y ago
The delivery in "Yes, Prime Minister" is very good. Here's the clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSD1d-6P6qI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSD1d-6P6qI
gooseus 2y ago
This is also the story of my political discourse for the last four years, and will almost certainly continue for the next four.
roenxi 2y ago
The Yes, Prime Minister advice is different. That 4-stage formula is for ignoring a crisis. The PM's No is advocating for working on tickets in priority order which will result in following the plan under a remarkably large number of situations. The two major differences are firstly that the YPM steps don't involve priorities at any stage. And secondly, the PM's No is a straightforward but a polite way of pointing out that the work being asked for is very low priority and so is unlikely to ever get time assigned to it.
- tsunamifury 2y ago
  You haven’t worked in tech long enough have you. PMs priority more often than not is based on their perf and their ego. Rarely have I met one that can define actual priorities outside of this.
JohnMakin 2y ago
On climate change, are we somewhere between step 3 and 4? It sure looks a lot that way to me. Maybe closer to 4 soon. That conversation is exhausting, or kind of the inverse of this, overwhelming confidence in the success of future technologies that do not really exist yet.
- Etheryte 2y ago
  I think whether you're at 3 or 4 depends largely on what latitude you live at. I have many colleagues who are seriously considering moving because the weather is getting too extreme where they're at. Meanwhile people in mellower climates don't even see there's a problem, they're happy there's somewhere warm they can take a holiday in the cold months.
  - JohnMakin 2y ago
    I live in LA - I am born and raised, never even left the city until I was an adult - I think it’s the best place on earth, but the recent natural disaster has made up my mind for me. I’m still grieving a little in my head about it, but long suspected this day could come - my home is losing fire insurance. I’m not sure I can even sell it if the market goes into a downturn, I don’t really even have a hard decision. the question to me is, what area will weather natural disasters the best in the next 40-60 years? I don’t honestly know. I think parts of northern alaska could become pretty temperate and is reasonably cheap/undeveloped, but I have infrastructure concerns and am not so much interested in remaining in the united states.
    - staunton 2y ago
      > northern alaska could become pretty temperate If you're worried about wildfires, I'd look it up and reconsider Alaska...
      - JohnMakin 2y ago
        You know alaska is massive and geographically diverse right?
switch007 2y ago
Modern twist 1. No such crisis exists 2. Why would you believe such a thing? 3. It's too early to draw any conclusions before the full investigation 4. Look over there, a new scandal

by gopalv 2y ago

senkora 2y ago

The delivery in "Yes, Prime Minister" is very good. Here's the clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSD1d-6P6qI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSD1d-6P6qI

gooseus 2y ago

This is also the story of my political discourse for the last four years, and will almost certainly continue for the next four.

roenxi 2y ago

The Yes, Prime Minister advice is different. That 4-stage formula is for ignoring a crisis. The PM's No is advocating for working on tickets in priority order which will result in following the plan under a remarkably large number of situations. The two major differences are firstly that the YPM steps don't involve priorities at any stage. And secondly, the PM's No is a straightforward but a polite way of pointing out that the work being asked for is very low priority and so is unlikely to ever get time assigned to it.

tsunamifury 2y ago
You haven’t worked in tech long enough have you. PMs priority more often than not is based on their perf and their ego. Rarely have I met one that can define actual priorities outside of this.

JohnMakin 2y ago

On climate change, are we somewhere between step 3 and 4? It sure looks a lot that way to me. Maybe closer to 4 soon. That conversation is exhausting, or kind of the inverse of this, overwhelming confidence in the success of future technologies that do not really exist yet.

Etheryte 2y ago
I think whether you're at 3 or 4 depends largely on what latitude you live at. I have many colleagues who are seriously considering moving because the weather is getting too extreme where they're at. Meanwhile people in mellower climates don't even see there's a problem, they're happy there's somewhere warm they can take a holiday in the cold months.
- JohnMakin 2y ago
  I live in LA - I am born and raised, never even left the city until I was an adult - I think it’s the best place on earth, but the recent natural disaster has made up my mind for me. I’m still grieving a little in my head about it, but long suspected this day could come - my home is losing fire insurance. I’m not sure I can even sell it if the market goes into a downturn, I don’t really even have a hard decision. the question to me is, what area will weather natural disasters the best in the next 40-60 years? I don’t honestly know. I think parts of northern alaska could become pretty temperate and is reasonably cheap/undeveloped, but I have infrastructure concerns and am not so much interested in remaining in the united states.
  - staunton 2y ago
    > northern alaska could become pretty temperate If you're worried about wildfires, I'd look it up and reconsider Alaska...
    - JohnMakin 2y ago
      You know alaska is massive and geographically diverse right?

switch007 2y ago

Modern twist 1. No such crisis exists 2. Why would you believe such a thing? 3. It's too early to draw any conclusions before the full investigation 4. Look over there, a new scandal