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As for the murder part Christina Warren knows best: The murder for hire bit was always the most bullshit of all the charges. Not only were the fbi agents that

by karlzt 2y ago

As for the murder part Christina Warren knows best: The murder for hire bit was always the most bullshit of all the charges. Not only were the fbi agents that were part of that later jailed for their own actions related to the case (including theft and hiding/deleting evidence), it was never real and no one was ever in danger. https://bsky.app/profile/filmgirl.bsky.social/post/3lgcck6i6e22d https://bsky.app/profile/filmgirl.bsky.social/post/3lgcck6i6...

verteu 2y ago
> it was never real and no one was ever in danger. Because one of the hitmen he hired was a scammer, and another was an FBI agent. Still clearly a crime to hire them for murder. Ulbricht's right-hand-man Roger Thomas Clark, who was involved in one of the murder-for-hire conversations, admitted the conversation was real during his trial: "In his own remarks, Clark didn't comment on that murder-for-hire conversation—which he at one point claimed had been fabricated by Ulbricht but later conceded was real."
selfmodruntime 2y ago
Wow! There have been multiple (astoundingly so) arrests of agents who were present in the Silk Road case. As far as I can see: 1 DEA agent for extortion, money laundering and fraud. 1 Secret Service Agent for money laundering. 2 Key advisors in the case.
chandler5555 2y ago
that was only one of the 6 murder for hires Chris Tarbell, the guy who arrested ross, talks about it on this podcast https://risky.biz/RB770/ https://risky.biz/RB770/ 37:08
- defrost 2y ago
  Chris Tarbell states that there are logs about 6 imaginary "murder of hire"'s .. none of which actually took place, two were faked by the FBI(?) and four were scams run by third parties outside the USA. In the absence of any other context it's assumed these were acts of "intent to murder" but that's about it .. logs that look like a duck and probably were a duck. But no actual murders that anyone could find, no bodies, etc.
  - etc-hosts 2y ago
    If I go to a bar and end up hiring a hitman to kill my wife, and the hitman happens to be a FBI asset, I'm still going to jail.
    - karlzt 2y ago
      Not for 11 years!! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39870416 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39870416
    - defrost 2y ago
      and if you do this for six ex wives or six people that annoy you and not a single one dies? At what point does this strike you as odd?

by karlzt 2y ago

verteu 2y ago

> it was never real and no one was ever in danger. Because one of the hitmen he hired was a scammer, and another was an FBI agent. Still clearly a crime to hire them for murder. Ulbricht's right-hand-man Roger Thomas Clark, who was involved in one of the murder-for-hire conversations, admitted the conversation was real during his trial: "In his own remarks, Clark didn't comment on that murder-for-hire conversation—which he at one point claimed had been fabricated by Ulbricht but later conceded was real."

selfmodruntime 2y ago

Wow! There have been multiple (astoundingly so) arrests of agents who were present in the Silk Road case. As far as I can see: 1 DEA agent for extortion, money laundering and fraud. 1 Secret Service Agent for money laundering. 2 Key advisors in the case.

chandler5555 2y ago

that was only one of the 6 murder for hires Chris Tarbell, the guy who arrested ross, talks about it on this podcast https://risky.biz/RB770/ https://risky.biz/RB770/ 37:08

defrost 2y ago
Chris Tarbell states that there are logs about 6 imaginary "murder of hire"'s .. none of which actually took place, two were faked by the FBI(?) and four were scams run by third parties outside the USA. In the absence of any other context it's assumed these were acts of "intent to murder" but that's about it .. logs that look like a duck and probably were a duck. But no actual murders that anyone could find, no bodies, etc.
- etc-hosts 2y ago
  If I go to a bar and end up hiring a hitman to kill my wife, and the hitman happens to be a FBI asset, I'm still going to jail.
  - karlzt 2y ago
    Not for 11 years!! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39870416 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39870416
  - defrost 2y ago
    and if you do this for six ex wives or six people that annoy you and not a single one dies? At what point does this strike you as odd?