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Good. From day 1 DHS has been the most Orwellian department of the US government, which casually violates our freedom on a regular basis. The entire department

by bigstrat2003 2y ago

Good. From day 1 DHS has been the most Orwellian department of the US government, which casually violates our freedom on a regular basis. The entire department should be abolished.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago
Which party created the DHS again?
- hk1337 2y ago
  Pretty sure it was a solid bipartisan achievement.
avgDev 2y ago
Maybe you can share some of the examples of such infringements on our rights.
- zer8k 2y ago
  https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/court-rules-warrantless-section-702-searches-violated-the-fourth-amendment https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/court-rules-warrantless-... https://epic.org/dhs-disregards-internal-policies-and-avoids-fourth-amendment-protections-to-track-your-location/ https://epic.org/dhs-disregards-internal-policies-and-avoids... https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/breaking-dhs-will-begin-collecting-social-media-information-on-immigrants-green-card-holders-naturalized-citizens-and-anyone-in-touch-with-them https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/breaking-dhs-will-begin-... https://www.theverge.com/c/23311333/tsa-history-airport-security-theater-homeland https://www.theverge.com/c/23311333/tsa-history-airport-secu... https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us/tsa-screeners-win-immunity-from-abuse-claims-appeals-court-idUSKBN1K125V/ https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us/tsa-screeners-win-i... The list goes on. There's 24 years of history you can comb through. The DHS' security theater exists solely to compromise the constitutional rights of American citizens. To this day there's no evidence they're even that successful at their job. The fact the impeachment of Mayorkas failed was quite mind-boggling but characteristic of a government that doesn't truly believe anyone, even citizens, have certain inalienable rights. The DHS was and still is bipartisan. It's America's Staatspolizei.
  - throwaway290 2y ago
    You know that things you posted about border and airport searches are absolutely not gonna go away with this move. Under this gov ingress control can only intensify, DHS or not. What did stop is some pretty important recent cyber attack reviews and that seems to touch China's interests.
insane_dreamer 2y ago
I would not be opposed to abolishing the DHS, but that is _not_ what is happening here. Instead, it's creating a DHS that is less accountable and less sensitive to outside advice. In other words, a more dangerous DHS. So really the opposite of what you're hoping for.

Good. From day 1 DHS has been the most Orwellian department of the US government, which casually violates our freedom on a regular basis. The entire department should be abolished.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago

Which party created the DHS again?

hk1337 2y ago
Pretty sure it was a solid bipartisan achievement.

avgDev 2y ago

Maybe you can share some of the examples of such infringements on our rights.

zer8k 2y ago
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/court-rules-warrantless-section-702-searches-violated-the-fourth-amendment https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/court-rules-warrantless-... https://epic.org/dhs-disregards-internal-policies-and-avoids-fourth-amendment-protections-to-track-your-location/ https://epic.org/dhs-disregards-internal-policies-and-avoids... https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/breaking-dhs-will-begin-collecting-social-media-information-on-immigrants-green-card-holders-naturalized-citizens-and-anyone-in-touch-with-them https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/breaking-dhs-will-begin-... https://www.theverge.com/c/23311333/tsa-history-airport-security-theater-homeland https://www.theverge.com/c/23311333/tsa-history-airport-secu... https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us/tsa-screeners-win-immunity-from-abuse-claims-appeals-court-idUSKBN1K125V/ https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us/tsa-screeners-win-i... The list goes on. There's 24 years of history you can comb through. The DHS' security theater exists solely to compromise the constitutional rights of American citizens. To this day there's no evidence they're even that successful at their job. The fact the impeachment of Mayorkas failed was quite mind-boggling but characteristic of a government that doesn't truly believe anyone, even citizens, have certain inalienable rights. The DHS was and still is bipartisan. It's America's Staatspolizei.
- throwaway290 2y ago
  You know that things you posted about border and airport searches are absolutely not gonna go away with this move. Under this gov ingress control can only intensify, DHS or not. What did stop is some pretty important recent cyber attack reviews and that seems to touch China's interests.

insane_dreamer 2y ago

I would not be opposed to abolishing the DHS, but that is _not_ what is happening here. Instead, it's creating a DHS that is less accountable and less sensitive to outside advice. In other words, a more dangerous DHS. So really the opposite of what you're hoping for.