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Seems the Cybersecurity Executive Orders that dealt with Memory Safe Languages and the ONCD Report (which mentioned Rust, if I remember correctly) are all gone

Seems the Cybersecurity Executive Orders that dealt with Memory Safe Languages and the ONCD Report (which mentioned Rust, if I remember correctly) are all gone from whitehouse.gov as well. The CISA report that dealt with memory safety is still on the CISA site. What do these recent developments mean for CISA? Is it an independent organization that will continue to exist without DHS support or is it essentially dead and its site and reports will vanish as well?

throwaway290 2y ago
I am mostly ignorant but from hearsay CISA is part of DHS (the chief of CISA is a DHS official). doubt Trump loves it because he literally fired Krebs directly for not supporting misinformation and overthrow attempt in 2020 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Krebs#2020_dismissal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Krebs#2020_dismissal)
- evanjrowley 2y ago
  CISA has an important job to do, but their mission was put at risk when it's leadership under Krebs chose to repeatedly violate the first amendment. Elections and Covid-19 are topics they've been documented in influencing, but with the capability there, what other narratives was it influencing that we don't know about? The legal fight against CISA to stop their censorship was lost not on the basis of it being constitutional, but because the plaintiffs powerful enough to bring it to court couldn't show they had been directly harmed by it. A common stumbling block for many court cases for legitimate issues. CISA has publicly stated they will be changing their approach as a result of these controversies.
- jonstewart 2y ago
  It is not hearsay that CISA is part of DHS. This is an easily verified fact.
begueradj 2y ago
> Seems the Cybersecurity Executive Orders that dealt with Memory Safe Languages and the ONCD Report (which mentioned Rust, if I remember correctly) are all gone from whitehouse.gov as well. Do you have any clues for the "why" ?
- anotherhue 2y ago
  It's baffling, traditionally his highest support has come from the Rust belt.
  - ARandomerDude 2y ago
    Thank you for this comment. Gold. :D
- mapmeld 2y ago
  It's a brand new website and old URLs won't work (this has been somewhat routine since Obama's first term). I wouldn't take that as a sign that a specific executive order is rescinded. However it may have been grouped in with other Biden tech executive orders (such as AI safety) which are being rescinded as excessive regulation
- taejo 2y ago
  AFAIK it's typical for whitehouse.gov to be completely replaced with every new president
darknavi 2y ago
Big C Plus Plus must be in play here
- aowiejtli 2y ago
  Big Stroustrup?

throwaway290 2y ago

I am mostly ignorant but from hearsay CISA is part of DHS (the chief of CISA is a DHS official). doubt Trump loves it because he literally fired Krebs directly for not supporting misinformation and overthrow attempt in 2020 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Krebs#2020_dismissal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Krebs#2020_dismissal)

evanjrowley 2y ago
CISA has an important job to do, but their mission was put at risk when it's leadership under Krebs chose to repeatedly violate the first amendment. Elections and Covid-19 are topics they've been documented in influencing, but with the capability there, what other narratives was it influencing that we don't know about? The legal fight against CISA to stop their censorship was lost not on the basis of it being constitutional, but because the plaintiffs powerful enough to bring it to court couldn't show they had been directly harmed by it. A common stumbling block for many court cases for legitimate issues. CISA has publicly stated they will be changing their approach as a result of these controversies.
jonstewart 2y ago
It is not hearsay that CISA is part of DHS. This is an easily verified fact.

begueradj 2y ago

> Seems the Cybersecurity Executive Orders that dealt with Memory Safe Languages and the ONCD Report (which mentioned Rust, if I remember correctly) are all gone from whitehouse.gov as well. Do you have any clues for the "why" ?

anotherhue 2y ago
It's baffling, traditionally his highest support has come from the Rust belt.
- ARandomerDude 2y ago
  Thank you for this comment. Gold. :D
mapmeld 2y ago
It's a brand new website and old URLs won't work (this has been somewhat routine since Obama's first term). I wouldn't take that as a sign that a specific executive order is rescinded. However it may have been grouped in with other Biden tech executive orders (such as AI safety) which are being rescinded as excessive regulation
taejo 2y ago
AFAIK it's typical for whitehouse.gov to be completely replaced with every new president

darknavi 2y ago

Big C Plus Plus must be in play here

aowiejtli 2y ago
Big Stroustrup?