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Still something tells me you have zero problem with the thousands of pardons Biden issued, correct? Don’t dress up your stance in fancy garb when it comes down
by keepamovin 2y ago
Still something tells me you have zero problem with the thousands of pardons Biden issued, correct?
Don’t dress up your stance in fancy garb when it comes down to something baser.
- varsketiz 2y agoThis is not in any way related to Trump pardoning Ross or the fact that president can issue pardons at their discretion. What you are doing here is a distraction from the topic - whataboutism.
- mardifoufs 2y agoActually in matters of law (which this definitely is), "whataboutism" is just judicial or executive precedent. This is like crying about whataboutism when a judge cites judicial precedent to justify a sentence. Good luck with that, it might work as a "nuh-uh" in online discussions but in real life, precedent does actually matter.
- varsketiz 2y agoI understand what a precedent is in law and in life :) It seems like an illogical position to hold here. Biden did bad pardons, now Trump has no other course (eg fix the system), but to do bad pardons as well? Except when Trump does it it is not bad because Biden did it first?
- keepamovin 2y agoMisrepresentation. The point is none of that. It’s the moral inconsistency disguised as valid.
- zo1 2y agoWe have to. Short of arguing on first-principles, agreeing on them, and then using those principles to evaluate everything done on both sides, this is one of the top mechanisms we have to bring a spotlight to the contradictory mess we have on our hands. Personally, I blame lawyers and prosecutors. A law should be simple, easy to evaluate if it was broken, and always prosecuted. And when it comes to punishments, they should be explicit and without the possibility of being altered. We've gotten too complacent with making all these arbitrary rules, then fiddling with their non-enforcement and severity by virtue of reduced sentences.
- varsketiz 2y agoWell put. It seems to me that too few realise this.
- keepamovin 2y agoIncorrect - that’s merely how you’ve interpreted it. Is not whataboutism, it’s first principles to expose standards supposed as impartial.
- keepamovin 2y agoI see that it’s still not possible to be pro Trump in YCombinator in 2025. One must still toe the line here. How sad.