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> "The Day" So it was fine when they were censoring republicans, but only became "the day of infamy" when blocking the left... Zero acknowledgement or mention

> "The Day" So it was fine when they were censoring republicans, but only became "the day of infamy" when blocking the left... Zero acknowledgement or mention in the article about the history of censorship against the right. I thought they believed in equity?

Matthyze 2y ago
You might argue that forms of fact-checking or moderation of controversial content constituted censorship, but you cannot believe that that equates to such explicit silencing of political opponents.
secretsatan 2y ago
When did they censor the republicans?
- cbeach 2y ago
  Did you forget that Meta chose to shut down the account of a democratically-elected sitting Republican president? Or is that (and other scandals eg the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story) a distant and obscure memory?
  - cbeach 2y ago
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    - dscottboggs 2y ago
      Or maybe they think your post is not of value? Lol
  - wklauss 2y ago
    No the same case. Donald Trump's account was banned due to his role in inciting an insurrection but you could still find republican content posted by other users with hashtags. I'd expect the same treatement if a democratic leader tried to incite a violent mob to assault the capitol.
    - cbeach 2y ago
      When the Capitol riot happened, Trump was tweeting to demand the protesters act peacefully and within the law. If Trump was truly an insurrectionist, then that’s a very strange way to incite insurrection.
      - TMWNN 2y ago
        My "favorite" bit of misinformation about the Capitol riot (out of so, so many) is about Donald Trump Jr. For many, many months prosecutors and the media talked about him as being an unindicted co-conspirator, and how that that Nixonesque adjective would/should surely be adjusted any day now. Then ... it turns out that Jr. repeatedly begged his father (via messages to Mark Meadows) to do whatever he could to stop the rioting.
        myko 2y ago
        and only once donald realized his insurrection attempt failed did he listen to his son we know, it was all detailed in the Jan 6th report - confirming trump's anti-American attempt at a coup. He should be in jail.
      - captainvaqina 2y ago
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      - davely 2y ago
        You should re-read his tweets from January 6th[0]. He didn’t tweet about peace until hours after things started, (he was gleefully watching it unfold on TV[1], remember), and when he did, it was a half hearted one line sentence to go home. And three of his tweets were deleted by Twitter, including this gem from late in the day: “Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!” This doesn’t read like someone who was remorseful about the actions that happened that day on his watch. 0: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/tweets-january-6-2021 https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/tweets-january-6-2... 1: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capitol-probes-season-finale-focus-trump-supporters-three-hour-rage-2022-07-21/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capitol-probes-season-fi...
  - secretsatan 2y ago
    They cited a reason for that didn't they? what was it now?
- snowfarthing 2y ago
  For the last several years, they censored the Hunter Biden laptop story (before an election, at that!), the claim that COVID was possibly a lab leak, and other "uncouth" topics that turned out to be reasonable after all. And the positions censored were far more likely to be associated with Republicans than they were for Democrats. Republicans on FaceBook in particular joked about being in FaceBook jail heavily -- observing "shadow bans", outright bans, and other ways they couldn't communicate with their fans and friends. Indeed, when Twitter was bought out and the censorship was removed, many of these people were amazed at how much interaction they got afterward -- it was night and day. And we now know from the "Twitter Files" that the Government was behind these efforts all along, so it's not just a "company has the right to moderate content" issue, it's a "government is violating the 1st Amendment" issue.
rofo1 2y ago
Trump was banned from Facebook and Twitter. They didn't seem to have a problem with this. It's interesting how the brainwashing works: they always find a reason for whatever they do. "Empathy", "sympathy", "compassion" for whatever evil they do. "We are protecting innocent people from the Dangerous Thoughts". When other groups do it to them, then they cry in the media in which they control. The solution is simple: we should not censor free speech. IT WILL be turned against you. This should be a principled position, not one that depends on whether you like one party or another party...
- GJim 2y ago
  > Trump was banned from Facebook and Twitter For misinformation and inciting violence. Not because of his politics.
  - GJim 2y ago
    The above is a proven factual statement that has been downvoted due to tribal politics. Very sad to see, and indicative of the poor state of political discourse.
  - snowfarthing 2y ago
    If Democrats can incite violence and post information with impunity, yet Republicans get fact-checked out the wazoo (by Democrats, no less!) ... it's very hard for us to take the claim that this wasn't "because of his politics".
- karles 2y ago
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- jampekka 2y ago
  I didn't agree with the Trump ban and a lot of other "content moderation" (which affected the left wing too). But in the case of Trump he was banned due to the incitement of violence/revolt in the Capitol Hill incident and the attempts to overturn election results.

Matthyze 2y ago

You might argue that forms of fact-checking or moderation of controversial content constituted censorship, but you cannot believe that that equates to such explicit silencing of political opponents.

secretsatan 2y ago

When did they censor the republicans?

cbeach 2y ago
Did you forget that Meta chose to shut down the account of a democratically-elected sitting Republican president? Or is that (and other scandals eg the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story) a distant and obscure memory?
- cbeach 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - dscottboggs 2y ago
    Or maybe they think your post is not of value? Lol
- wklauss 2y ago
  No the same case. Donald Trump's account was banned due to his role in inciting an insurrection but you could still find republican content posted by other users with hashtags. I'd expect the same treatement if a democratic leader tried to incite a violent mob to assault the capitol.
  - cbeach 2y ago
    When the Capitol riot happened, Trump was tweeting to demand the protesters act peacefully and within the law. If Trump was truly an insurrectionist, then that’s a very strange way to incite insurrection.
    - TMWNN 2y ago
      My "favorite" bit of misinformation about the Capitol riot (out of so, so many) is about Donald Trump Jr. For many, many months prosecutors and the media talked about him as being an unindicted co-conspirator, and how that that Nixonesque adjective would/should surely be adjusted any day now. Then ... it turns out that Jr. repeatedly begged his father (via messages to Mark Meadows) to do whatever he could to stop the rioting.
      - myko 2y ago
        and only once donald realized his insurrection attempt failed did he listen to his son we know, it was all detailed in the Jan 6th report - confirming trump's anti-American attempt at a coup. He should be in jail.
    - captainvaqina 2y ago
      [dead]
    - davely 2y ago
      You should re-read his tweets from January 6th[0]. He didn’t tweet about peace until hours after things started, (he was gleefully watching it unfold on TV[1], remember), and when he did, it was a half hearted one line sentence to go home. And three of his tweets were deleted by Twitter, including this gem from late in the day: “Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!” This doesn’t read like someone who was remorseful about the actions that happened that day on his watch. 0: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/tweets-january-6-2021 https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/tweets-january-6-2... 1: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capitol-probes-season-finale-focus-trump-supporters-three-hour-rage-2022-07-21/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capitol-probes-season-fi...
- secretsatan 2y ago
  They cited a reason for that didn't they? what was it now?
snowfarthing 2y ago
For the last several years, they censored the Hunter Biden laptop story (before an election, at that!), the claim that COVID was possibly a lab leak, and other "uncouth" topics that turned out to be reasonable after all. And the positions censored were far more likely to be associated with Republicans than they were for Democrats. Republicans on FaceBook in particular joked about being in FaceBook jail heavily -- observing "shadow bans", outright bans, and other ways they couldn't communicate with their fans and friends. Indeed, when Twitter was bought out and the censorship was removed, many of these people were amazed at how much interaction they got afterward -- it was night and day. And we now know from the "Twitter Files" that the Government was behind these efforts all along, so it's not just a "company has the right to moderate content" issue, it's a "government is violating the 1st Amendment" issue.

rofo1 2y ago

Trump was banned from Facebook and Twitter. They didn't seem to have a problem with this. It's interesting how the brainwashing works: they always find a reason for whatever they do. "Empathy", "sympathy", "compassion" for whatever evil they do. "We are protecting innocent people from the Dangerous Thoughts". When other groups do it to them, then they cry in the media in which they control. The solution is simple: we should not censor free speech. IT WILL be turned against you. This should be a principled position, not one that depends on whether you like one party or another party...

GJim 2y ago
> Trump was banned from Facebook and Twitter For misinformation and inciting violence. Not because of his politics.
- GJim 2y ago
  The above is a proven factual statement that has been downvoted due to tribal politics. Very sad to see, and indicative of the poor state of political discourse.
- snowfarthing 2y ago
  If Democrats can incite violence and post information with impunity, yet Republicans get fact-checked out the wazoo (by Democrats, no less!) ... it's very hard for us to take the claim that this wasn't "because of his politics".
karles 2y ago
[flagged]
jampekka 2y ago
I didn't agree with the Trump ban and a lot of other "content moderation" (which affected the left wing too). But in the case of Trump he was banned due to the incitement of violence/revolt in the Capitol Hill incident and the attempts to overturn election results.