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It's just the beginning. There's a good breakdown of what it would take to reduce the government by Musk's "at least 2 trillion" and it doesn't look very good (

It's just the beginning. There's a good breakdown of what it would take to reduce the government by Musk's "at least 2 trillion" and it doesn't look very good (for US citizens). I mean he what, is going to cut SpaceX contracts? Please... https://youtu.be/5fvDfDDZ4Ms https://youtu.be/5fvDfDDZ4Ms

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Musk's 2 trillion There is no evidence this is an actual target for anyone in government.
- throwaway290 2y ago
  Not for the government. For people outside of the government tasked with reducing the government. Musk is one of them
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > people outside of the government tasked with reducing the government My point is we have seen zero evidence of this influence in Trump’s executive actions thus far. DOGE is analogous to the Federalist Society or NRA. Influential. But not policy prescriptive.
    - throwaway290 2y ago
      2 trillion is not prescriptive, but is there any unambiguous number published officially? Otherwise 2 tril is the only figure publicly advertised and I guess TFA is a sign they are starting to chip at this campaign promise
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > 2 tril is the only figure publicly advertised and I guess TFA is a sign they are starting to chip at this campaign promise Not a campaign promise if it didn’t come from the campaign! This isn’t cost cutting. The DHS budget hasn’t been slashed. This is deregulation. (Which was a campaign promise.)
        throwaway290 2y ago
        Wasn't one of campaign promises to reduce the government? And this is the only figure made public so far > The DHS budget hasn’t been slashed. Rome wasn't built (or destroyed) in a day. Once there are no members or investigations then what are the money spent on?;)
  - agent281 2y ago
    Musk did backtrack on the $2 trillion goal. 'Musk told political strategist Mark Penn in an interview broadcast on X that the $2 trillion figure was a “best-case outcome” and that he thought there was only a “good shot” at cutting half that.' 'That figure was quickly dismissed as implausible by budget experts, who said the entire discretionary budget was only $1.7 trillion. Musk hadn’t waved people off the number until Wednesday, and it has been widely cited in reports about DOGE’s plans. ' https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-says-doge-probably-wont-find-2-trillion-federal-budget-cuts-rcna186924 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-say...
    - throwaway290 2y ago
      "Half that" is still a massive problem. He's digging himself deeper.
sharpshadow 2y ago
Blame it on Musk, replace the humans with computers. It could be an chronological digitalisation step and since the US is leading in the AI field they just start replacing the government with artificial intelligence.
- throwaway290 2y ago
  Ah so you're saying he not only will not cut his existing gov contracts but actually add some more now for "AI government"? Sounds great and totally no conflict of interest

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> Musk's 2 trillion There is no evidence this is an actual target for anyone in government.

throwaway290 2y ago
Not for the government. For people outside of the government tasked with reducing the government. Musk is one of them
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > people outside of the government tasked with reducing the government My point is we have seen zero evidence of this influence in Trump’s executive actions thus far. DOGE is analogous to the Federalist Society or NRA. Influential. But not policy prescriptive.
  - throwaway290 2y ago
    2 trillion is not prescriptive, but is there any unambiguous number published officially? Otherwise 2 tril is the only figure publicly advertised and I guess TFA is a sign they are starting to chip at this campaign promise
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > 2 tril is the only figure publicly advertised and I guess TFA is a sign they are starting to chip at this campaign promise Not a campaign promise if it didn’t come from the campaign! This isn’t cost cutting. The DHS budget hasn’t been slashed. This is deregulation. (Which was a campaign promise.)
      - throwaway290 2y ago
        Wasn't one of campaign promises to reduce the government? And this is the only figure made public so far > The DHS budget hasn’t been slashed. Rome wasn't built (or destroyed) in a day. Once there are no members or investigations then what are the money spent on?;)
- agent281 2y ago
  Musk did backtrack on the $2 trillion goal. 'Musk told political strategist Mark Penn in an interview broadcast on X that the $2 trillion figure was a “best-case outcome” and that he thought there was only a “good shot” at cutting half that.' 'That figure was quickly dismissed as implausible by budget experts, who said the entire discretionary budget was only $1.7 trillion. Musk hadn’t waved people off the number until Wednesday, and it has been widely cited in reports about DOGE’s plans. ' https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-says-doge-probably-wont-find-2-trillion-federal-budget-cuts-rcna186924 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-say...
  - throwaway290 2y ago
    "Half that" is still a massive problem. He's digging himself deeper.

sharpshadow 2y ago

Blame it on Musk, replace the humans with computers. It could be an chronological digitalisation step and since the US is leading in the AI field they just start replacing the government with artificial intelligence.

throwaway290 2y ago
Ah so you're saying he not only will not cut his existing gov contracts but actually add some more now for "AI government"? Sounds great and totally no conflict of interest