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I don’t think it was a jab, the implication is that Muslims know the scripture very well, and won’t be fooled by erroneous quotations.

by tines 2y ago

cess11 2y ago
That's still a weird generalisation and pinpointing of muslims. There are billions of them, most of whom care little about minutiae in protestant christian canon. Coming from someone in a rather small and modern christian denomination that has spent a lot of time griefing about "paedo-baptism" I don't think it's actually about being impressed by 'knowledge of scripture'.
- tines 2y ago
  > most of whom care little about minutiae in protestant christian canon Muslim and Christian scripture overlap by a large amount, it's not that they care about Christian canon, it's that they study the same books. Muslims have the stereotype that they are much more "serious" about their religion than Christians. It's not a negative thing.
  - cess11 2y ago
    It's absolutely unsound to generalise over a billion people like that.
    - tines 2y ago
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/insight-therapy/201809/stereotype-accuracy-displeasing-truth?amp https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/insight-therapy/20...
      - cess11 2y ago
        To save whoever reads this a click, it's a link to an irrelevant article about the problems and ethics of measuring accuracy of commonly held beliefs based in prejudice along racial, gender and similar lines. It's presented instead of evidence of the accuracy of the earlier generalisation, because such evidence does not exist.
        tines 2y ago
        Not quite! I presented no evidence that my generalization was correct, but you didn't say that my generalization was incorrect, you said that "to generalise" a large number of people is unsound, which is refuted by studies of a phenomenon called stereotype accuracy. You can argue that this stereotype of Muslims is wrong if you like (or that there is no such stereotype widely held), but that's a different conversation. I don't get the feeling that you're arguing in good faith though, so I'll bid adieu now!

I don’t think it was a jab, the implication is that Muslims know the scripture very well, and won’t be fooled by erroneous quotations.

by tines 2y ago

I don’t think it was a jab, the implication is that Muslims know the scripture very well, and won’t be fooled by erroneous quotations.

cess11 2y ago

That's still a weird generalisation and pinpointing of muslims. There are billions of them, most of whom care little about minutiae in protestant christian canon. Coming from someone in a rather small and modern christian denomination that has spent a lot of time griefing about "paedo-baptism" I don't think it's actually about being impressed by 'knowledge of scripture'.

tines 2y ago
> most of whom care little about minutiae in protestant christian canon Muslim and Christian scripture overlap by a large amount, it's not that they care about Christian canon, it's that they study the same books. Muslims have the stereotype that they are much more "serious" about their religion than Christians. It's not a negative thing.
- cess11 2y ago
  It's absolutely unsound to generalise over a billion people like that.
  - tines 2y ago
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/insight-therapy/201809/stereotype-accuracy-displeasing-truth?amp https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/insight-therapy/20...
    - cess11 2y ago
      To save whoever reads this a click, it's a link to an irrelevant article about the problems and ethics of measuring accuracy of commonly held beliefs based in prejudice along racial, gender and similar lines. It's presented instead of evidence of the accuracy of the earlier generalisation, because such evidence does not exist.
      - tines 2y ago
        Not quite! I presented no evidence that my generalization was correct, but you didn't say that my generalization was incorrect, you said that "to generalise" a large number of people is unsound, which is refuted by studies of a phenomenon called stereotype accuracy. You can argue that this stereotype of Muslims is wrong if you like (or that there is no such stereotype widely held), but that's a different conversation. I don't get the feeling that you're arguing in good faith though, so I'll bid adieu now!