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People regularly die from drinking alcohol. Should liquor store owners be doing life in prison? (And why are Australians special?)
by loeg 2y ago
People regularly die from drinking alcohol. Should liquor store owners be doing life in prison? (And why are Australians special?)
- mrcwinn 2y agoThe law recognizes that a bottle of beer generally cannot be used to murder someone else.
- rpmisms 2y agoBut it easily can. Break the end off and poke.
- karles 2y agoNo more shoelaces - they are weapons. Next up - THOUGHTPOLICING!
- rpmisms 2y agoYou joke, but the ATF museum has within it a shoelace that is registered as a machine gun.
- beowulfey 2y agoand if a store was selling broken bottles as weapons that would probably face some legal action
- rpmisms 2y agoMaybe. That would probably legally qualify as a knife.
- echoangle 2y agoAnd stores are not allowed to sell knifes due to the danger to others?
- rpmisms 2y agoNot in the US.
- cooper_ganglia 2y agoWhat store isn't allowed to sell knives??
- echoangle 2y agoIt was a rhetorical question, that was the point.
- realce 2y agoThe comment you replied to referenced "multiple teenagers" - the very people that liquor stores cannot sell alcohol to since they're not recognized as mature enough to be freely allowed to drink. SR allowed children to buy addictive poison without any regulation whatsoever, and Ross profited off of those transactions. These are not comparable institutions.
- loeg 2y agoTeenagers routinely drink alcohol and sometimes die.
- xmprt 2y agoAnd businesses that knowingly sell alcohol to minors are charged with a crime.
- Whatarethese 2y agoCharles Manson never murdered anyone. Should his sentence been commuted?
- kybernetyk 2y agoObama ordered a drone strike on a wedding killing 500 people - yet he's walking free. It's almost as if the state was a highly immoral construct. Read Hoppe.
- the-dude 2y agoI am trying to find the incident you are referring to. Do you have any links/sources?
- gizmo 2y agoVery off-topic but it's this: https://www.hrw.org/report/2014/02/19/wedding-became-funeral/us-drone-attack-marriage-procession-yemen https://www.hrw.org/report/2014/02/19/wedding-became-funeral... GP misremembered what the 500 casualties number refers to (see article).
- mihaaly 2y agoWhy not incarcerate all car makers and doctors then too? You are hopelessly lost my friend, unable to comprehend the concept of illegal activity.
- BriggyDwiggs42 2y agoYou look lost to me because you equate law and morality at a deep level.
- mihaaly 2y agoSelling drugs vs. selling alcohol, this is beyond morality matter but a matter regulated by law, sorry. There was no equation there actually. Let me unwrap it for you, probably this way it will be clear: first line was a satire of the parent comment along the line of depicting deadly but permitted matters; second line was the unpacking the satire higlighting that the fella hopelessly confused (now, this was more like the equation you sought) a socially permitted activity with an illegal one.
- BriggyDwiggs42 2y agoLook maybe I’m just stupid, but I still can’t tell what you’re trying to say. If you’re not saying what I think you’re saying, I apologize.
- butlike 2y agoNobody cares. Also alcohol = drug = substance = molecule. IT all depends on how you morally frame it.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago>Selling drugs vs. selling alcohol, this is beyond morality matter but a matter regulated by law, sorry. There's nothing beyond morality. Laws are an application based on morality. And as we know with the 18th and 21st amendments, even the law can have shakey morality based on more factors than "what is good for the populace". That's more or less why I'm against most drug laws. They were not made with "the good health of the people in mind", they were a scapegoat to oppress minorities. It's all publicly declassified, so no one can call me a conspirator anymore.
- TrackerFF 2y agoIf the liquor store owner knows that some of those bottles might contain pure methanol, and people end up dying from drinking said methanol...then, yes, I do think the store owner should do some serious jailtime. Which is what this boils down to. Ross didn't know what people were selling. Could be pure high-quality stuff, could be contaminated stuff, could be stuff that was cut up with fent. He made money either way.
- Workaccount2 2y agoIronically silk road had much safer drugs than whatever pills you would get on the corner.
- Capricorn2481 2y agoThe Silk Road was "the corner." Do you think it would be any safer if it was running today? That makes 0 sense.
- Workaccount2 2y agoSellers had ratings and reputations. It also allowed the long string of shady middlemen to be cut out. Drug producers want pure products. It's almost entirely middlemen who cut drugs with whatever random chemicals they have on hand.
- Capricorn2481 2y ago> It also allowed the long string of shady middlemen to be cut out Based on what? This sounds completely made up. Anyone could sell on Silk Road, and faking reviews would be trivial on an anonymous platform. And if someone died from drugs they bought, they're not exactly leaving a review, are they? Sellers have reputations in real life, but it can actually be difficult to link a death to a specific dealer without a thorough investigation. Even more so on an anonymous platform. Would Silk Road have cared if the police linked deaths to a specific seller? Fuck no. For the record, I am not anti Silk Road, I'm actually for legalizing drugs. I just find the notion that drugs online were inherently cleaner to be naive Libertarian propaganda.