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So does this mean the war on drugs is finally over and we're going to stop mass incarceration for non-violent drug offenses? If so, that _would_ be good news.

ecocentrik 2y ago
He also just classified drug cartels as terrorist organizations so drug dealers are now technically facilitating terrorism. Apart from liberating this white collar drug dealer, all of his other actions have escalated the war on drugs. While he was signing these orders, he claimed that drug cartels were responsible for up to 300,000 American deaths annually (a completely fabricated number.)
- mr_00ff00 2y ago
  https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/overview.jsp https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/overview.jsp Feel like you have already made up your mind on what you want to believe, but he has actually helped a lot with non-violent drug offenders. That’s part of the reason poor communities (especially Latino) have voted for him despite harsh border policies.
  - ecocentrik 2y ago
    Justice reform is generally positive for the country and not just individual cultural groups. I just don't expect those reforms to apply to drug offenders when so many of his supporters seems like they are seeking retribution for the loss of loved ones that killed themselves with drugs to the extent that they celebrate calls to bomb neighboring countries. I don't think we're going to see clear messaging on this from Trump.
  - insane_dreamer 2y ago
    Trump also said anyone caught selling drugs should get the death penalty, so take your pick. https://reason.com/2023/10/24/trump-who-freed-drug-offenders-also-wants-to-kill-them/ https://reason.com/2023/10/24/trump-who-freed-drug-offenders...
tveita 2y ago
Not going to post this link to every post where it's relevant, but: Trump returned to that theme in November 2022, when he officially launched his 2024 presidential campaign. "We're going to be asking everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts," he said. https://reason.com/2023/10/24/trump-who-freed-drug-offenders-also-wants-to-kill-them/ https://reason.com/2023/10/24/trump-who-freed-drug-offenders... You'll note there are comments here saying saying that he generally keeps his campaign promises. On the bright side I don't agree, but on the other hand I think he does often enough, especially for the "well of course he didn't literally mean that" ones.

ecocentrik 2y ago

He also just classified drug cartels as terrorist organizations so drug dealers are now technically facilitating terrorism. Apart from liberating this white collar drug dealer, all of his other actions have escalated the war on drugs. While he was signing these orders, he claimed that drug cartels were responsible for up to 300,000 American deaths annually (a completely fabricated number.)

mr_00ff00 2y ago
https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/overview.jsp https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/overview.jsp Feel like you have already made up your mind on what you want to believe, but he has actually helped a lot with non-violent drug offenders. That’s part of the reason poor communities (especially Latino) have voted for him despite harsh border policies.
- ecocentrik 2y ago
  Justice reform is generally positive for the country and not just individual cultural groups. I just don't expect those reforms to apply to drug offenders when so many of his supporters seems like they are seeking retribution for the loss of loved ones that killed themselves with drugs to the extent that they celebrate calls to bomb neighboring countries. I don't think we're going to see clear messaging on this from Trump.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  Trump also said anyone caught selling drugs should get the death penalty, so take your pick. https://reason.com/2023/10/24/trump-who-freed-drug-offenders-also-wants-to-kill-them/ https://reason.com/2023/10/24/trump-who-freed-drug-offenders...

tveita 2y ago

Not going to post this link to every post where it's relevant, but: Trump returned to that theme in November 2022, when he officially launched his 2024 presidential campaign. "We're going to be asking everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts," he said. https://reason.com/2023/10/24/trump-who-freed-drug-offenders-also-wants-to-kill-them/ https://reason.com/2023/10/24/trump-who-freed-drug-offenders... You'll note there are comments here saying saying that he generally keeps his campaign promises. On the bright side I don't agree, but on the other hand I think he does often enough, especially for the "well of course he didn't literally mean that" ones.