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I mean daily we have responses and posts based on feels, but anyway I would state mine is based on fact. Firstly, The sentence for running the exact same websi

I mean daily we have responses and posts based on feels, but anyway I would state mine is based on fact. Firstly, The sentence for running the exact same website, was 5 years. https://www.vice.com/en/article/silk-road-2-founder-dread-pirate-roberts-2-caught-jailed-for-5-years/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/silk-road-2-founder-dread-pi... The two life sentences and 35 years extra that were given to Ross were most certainly abnormal and used to make an example of. I have yet to see this comparison made although if anyone could provide valid reasons in the difference I would be open to listening. Secondly, the sheer number of posts on this site stating didn't he hire a hitman. No, and there was no conviction of that.

silverquiet 2y ago
I distinctly remember listening to recordings of him hiring a hitman. It's been a long time and my memory is certainly prone to error, but that sort of thing does stick with you. I especially remember the irony because he also preached about non-violence at some point, obviously until someone's continued existence became inconvenient for him.
- ktallett 2y ago
  I don't agree with that and I don't understand why those charges were not taken to court (I don't believe it was purely because he already had 2 life sentences as when the appeals were going to the supreme court and there was a risk of him winning, it surely made sense to secure him if you had the evidence to proceed with another case). Whether that was true or not though, someone can only be sentenced and punished on what one was convicted of. Anything else is not based in justice or law.
  - silverquiet 2y ago
    I don't really believe that the US is a country ruled by law any more, but in some idealized land of the law you are probably correct. But you won't convince me that OJ Simpson walking on a double homicide he clearly committed is justice. For Ulbricht, it actually feels like things more or less balanced out, but he did try to have someone killed, and I don't think that's a nice thing to do.
johnny22 2y ago
I think one can say the sentences were too severe and still think some sentence was fine.
- ktallett 2y ago
  I would agree with this. He deserved punishment as he did break the law.
mmooss 2y ago
Did the judge conclude, as part of sentencing, that hiring a hit (or two?) was likely? What reasoning did the judge give for the sentencing? They might involve similar websites but the crimes can be much different. Two people can run the same drug cartel at different times, but that doesn't mean their crimes are the same.
tzs 2y ago
Your link says that was a court in England. England generally has different sentencing standards than the US.
- ktallett 2y ago
  Valid point, however even those involved that were comvicted in the US such as Brian Farrell only received single digit sentences.

silverquiet 2y ago

I distinctly remember listening to recordings of him hiring a hitman. It's been a long time and my memory is certainly prone to error, but that sort of thing does stick with you. I especially remember the irony because he also preached about non-violence at some point, obviously until someone's continued existence became inconvenient for him.

ktallett 2y ago
I don't agree with that and I don't understand why those charges were not taken to court (I don't believe it was purely because he already had 2 life sentences as when the appeals were going to the supreme court and there was a risk of him winning, it surely made sense to secure him if you had the evidence to proceed with another case). Whether that was true or not though, someone can only be sentenced and punished on what one was convicted of. Anything else is not based in justice or law.
- silverquiet 2y ago
  I don't really believe that the US is a country ruled by law any more, but in some idealized land of the law you are probably correct. But you won't convince me that OJ Simpson walking on a double homicide he clearly committed is justice. For Ulbricht, it actually feels like things more or less balanced out, but he did try to have someone killed, and I don't think that's a nice thing to do.

johnny22 2y ago

I think one can say the sentences were too severe and still think some sentence was fine.

ktallett 2y ago
I would agree with this. He deserved punishment as he did break the law.

mmooss 2y ago

Did the judge conclude, as part of sentencing, that hiring a hit (or two?) was likely? What reasoning did the judge give for the sentencing? They might involve similar websites but the crimes can be much different. Two people can run the same drug cartel at different times, but that doesn't mean their crimes are the same.

tzs 2y ago

Your link says that was a court in England. England generally has different sentencing standards than the US.

ktallett 2y ago
Valid point, however even those involved that were comvicted in the US such as Brian Farrell only received single digit sentences.