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Trump promised to do this at the Libertarian Party convention. This case is very important to the libertarian crowd. He is a martyr for many of their ideals. Af

Trump promised to do this at the Libertarian Party convention. This case is very important to the libertarian crowd. He is a martyr for many of their ideals. After Trump was so well received at the convention the LP, recently taken over by the right faction of the party, put forth a candidate specifically chosen to not get votes so that members would vote for Trump. Trump seems to be a man of his word.

bb88 2y ago
Voters wanted a better economy first, not pardons for drug traffickers and violent offenders. This could have waited until after the midterms.
- macinjosh 2y ago
  It was one signature? Doesn't seem like a big time sink. Many of these early actions were prepared prior to inauguration.
  - bb88 2y ago
    In war, you point your biggest gun at the enemy. You don't shoot yourself in the foot.
- mattpope 2y ago
  It seems like the voters that were being referred to value restoring rights. How can something immediately achievable be balanced with "the economy", a thing so broad and deeply systemic?
  - bb88 2y ago
    The people in Pennsylvania who elected him, didn't want this.
    - mattpope 2y ago
      It isn't clear from your original statement that those voters aren't from Pennsylvania. I interpret your statement as discounting the weight of their vote on actions they care about. There are many perspectives, and the values of those who did vote in that direction are being addressed in some way.
      - bb88 2y ago
        A lot of republicans want a "shining city upon the hill". Drug free, sin free, tough penalties on crime. A lot of republicans want a working economy. High paying jobs, low taxes. A lot of republicans believe in a free market economy. Freedom to innovate, freedom to hire and fire. And then we have this.
        mattpope 2y ago
        We're talking about Libertarians and not Republicans, atleast that is what the parent comment was referring to. I don't know what Republicans what or believe vs what they say. The action to pardon directly addresses the Libertarian ideals.
        bb88 2y ago
        I guess if Trump really wanted to run Libertarian, he could have run under the Libertarian ticket.
        mattpope 2y ago
        He attended the convention. Is is for all intents and purposes representing them.
        deleted 2y ago
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        floydnoel 2y ago
        > sin free wow, not even god could eliminate sin but apparently the republicans can? how do you envision that being enforced? death penalty for any sin? You've never made a sin yourself? If so how could you live in sin-free city? sounds sick and dystopian. anyway, the point i wanted to make was that when you vote for somebody, you are the one giving that person the authority to take actions on your behalf. if you voted for T, you shouldn't complain about anything he does, because he can only do so because of your vote. learn to be wary of politicians, they treat you right during the dates (election) but after the wedding the true person comes out.
- foogazi 2y ago
  Eh, lowering the price of eggs is not as easy so
- duxup 2y ago
  >This could have waited until after the midterms. He promised to pardon the rioters during the election and it didn't hurt him. I think he decided it wouldn't hurt him (and Trump cares bout that first) and if he thought about the midterms ... maybe won't hurt then either. Congress isn't directly involved in any of this anyway.
  - bb88 2y ago
    Congress is involved. They have to prove they can govern. It's hard to be the party of "law and order" if you need only to kiss the ring for your release.
    - duxup 2y ago
      GOP house could hardly operate last round and … they won more seats.
      - bb88 2y ago
        I think this is funny. People hate congress. Yet each person can vote to only change one congressman at a time. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx October of 2001 they were up to 80% approval. Left to their own devices by Aug 2002 they were below 50%. There's an argument to be made that congress doesn't really represent the people at large. Some people go on to make the argument that through gerrymandering politicians choose who's elected, and not the people.
        duxup 2y ago
        2 parties and 2 choices certainly is a recipe for sending the wrong message. I'd like to see some ranked choice voting.
    - toyg 2y ago
      The GOP doesn't exist anymore, it's simply Trump Party. They live or die on his performance, and kiss his ring to exist.
- Klonoar 2y ago
  > This could have waited until after the midterms. On the contrary, he can just bury it in the first 48 hours. This will fade into the background soon enough but that group is kept happy.
- weberer 2y ago
  He also signed this executive order https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/delivering-emergency-price-relief-for-american-families-and-defeating-the-cost-of-living-crisis/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/deli...
- Bluescreenbuddy 2y ago
  The leopards will be feasting the next 4 years.
insane_dreamer 2y ago
> Trump seems to be a man of his word. when there's political gain, sure
- blindriver 2y ago
  You may not like Trump but I remember he fulfilled or attempted to fulfill a lot of his campaign promises back in 2016 as well. Biden, the career politician, talked a lot about many things before election and then forgot about them after he was elected. For example, universal health care. Obama promised to enshrine a woman's right to abortion as law, and then when he had the House and Senate after he was elected, he said "it's not a priority for me." Then we lost Roe V Wade.
  - insane_dreamer 2y ago
    Trump did just about what every president does - makes promises and then does some of them, tries to some others (successful unless thwarted by Congress), and ignores others. Obama didn't have the votes in the Senate (to overcome the filibuster, also not as many Dems congressmen supported it as you might think). Neither did Clinton (people thought it would happen then)
    - bb88 2y ago
      I'm privately predicting the senate will remove the filibuster this term.
  - mmooss 2y ago
    He also lies all the time about many things. People are are sometimes honest are called 'liars'. > when he had the House and Senate after he was elected, he said "it's not a priority for me." How could he get it through the Senate without a filibuster-proof majority?
  - Nimitz14 2y ago
    When did Biden talk about universal healthcare? Let's go through Trump's campaign promises: Infrastructure, Border wall, increased US manufacturing, repealing ACA, "drain the swamp". He achieved zero of those. Biden in contrast followed up on his campaign promises: Infrastructure, increased US manufacturing, expanding ACA plus lowering costs. Among others.
jdjdjfhfkeksnc 2y ago
This is 100% true. I am posting from an anon account (obviously), but I was heavily involved in this. I worked with members of the party to push part of their strategy - mainly the coalition with trump and an effort to get vivek and elon involved. We spoke about this in 2023. I didn't care about Ross, had my own motivations, but I wrote some of their playback with AI and it worked. I didn't know about certain things (like the losing candidate for example). I wrote strategy that seems to have made its way all the way to Trump's team.
- jdjdjfhfkeksnc 2y ago
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- batch12 2y ago
  Without proof this is just a bedtime story.
- ttyprintk 2y ago
  So, when Trump said that some of the same FBI agents involved in busting DPR also worked on Trump’s cases, how precise was that?
Dalewyn 2y ago
>Trump seems to be a man of his word. One of the big reasons I voted for him. He actually keeps the promises he made as far reality will allow. What's really stupid is that keeping promises made isn't the norm for politicians, of all kinds.
orblivion 2y ago
The LP candidate was nominated due to some fluke/shenanigans/dealings between candidates. Based on the right-leaning demographics you would not expect him to win. It just happened to work out perfectly to get the people who would never vote for him anyway to vote for Trump. (Meanwhile the chairwoman encouraged Biden supporters to vote for the LP candidate). Also, Trump actually got a mixed reception at the convention at best.
RockyMcNuts 2y ago
man of his word, ok. https://www.azquotes.com/quote/660639 https://www.azquotes.com/quote/660639

bb88 2y ago

Voters wanted a better economy first, not pardons for drug traffickers and violent offenders. This could have waited until after the midterms.

macinjosh 2y ago
It was one signature? Doesn't seem like a big time sink. Many of these early actions were prepared prior to inauguration.
- bb88 2y ago
  In war, you point your biggest gun at the enemy. You don't shoot yourself in the foot.
mattpope 2y ago
It seems like the voters that were being referred to value restoring rights. How can something immediately achievable be balanced with "the economy", a thing so broad and deeply systemic?
- bb88 2y ago
  The people in Pennsylvania who elected him, didn't want this.
  - mattpope 2y ago
    It isn't clear from your original statement that those voters aren't from Pennsylvania. I interpret your statement as discounting the weight of their vote on actions they care about. There are many perspectives, and the values of those who did vote in that direction are being addressed in some way.
    - bb88 2y ago
      A lot of republicans want a "shining city upon the hill". Drug free, sin free, tough penalties on crime. A lot of republicans want a working economy. High paying jobs, low taxes. A lot of republicans believe in a free market economy. Freedom to innovate, freedom to hire and fire. And then we have this.
      - mattpope 2y ago
        We're talking about Libertarians and not Republicans, atleast that is what the parent comment was referring to. I don't know what Republicans what or believe vs what they say. The action to pardon directly addresses the Libertarian ideals.
        bb88 2y ago
        I guess if Trump really wanted to run Libertarian, he could have run under the Libertarian ticket.
        mattpope 2y ago
        He attended the convention. Is is for all intents and purposes representing them.
        deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]
      - floydnoel 2y ago
        > sin free wow, not even god could eliminate sin but apparently the republicans can? how do you envision that being enforced? death penalty for any sin? You've never made a sin yourself? If so how could you live in sin-free city? sounds sick and dystopian. anyway, the point i wanted to make was that when you vote for somebody, you are the one giving that person the authority to take actions on your behalf. if you voted for T, you shouldn't complain about anything he does, because he can only do so because of your vote. learn to be wary of politicians, they treat you right during the dates (election) but after the wedding the true person comes out.
foogazi 2y ago
Eh, lowering the price of eggs is not as easy so
duxup 2y ago
>This could have waited until after the midterms. He promised to pardon the rioters during the election and it didn't hurt him. I think he decided it wouldn't hurt him (and Trump cares bout that first) and if he thought about the midterms ... maybe won't hurt then either. Congress isn't directly involved in any of this anyway.
- bb88 2y ago
  Congress is involved. They have to prove they can govern. It's hard to be the party of "law and order" if you need only to kiss the ring for your release.
  - duxup 2y ago
    GOP house could hardly operate last round and … they won more seats.
    - bb88 2y ago
      I think this is funny. People hate congress. Yet each person can vote to only change one congressman at a time. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx October of 2001 they were up to 80% approval. Left to their own devices by Aug 2002 they were below 50%. There's an argument to be made that congress doesn't really represent the people at large. Some people go on to make the argument that through gerrymandering politicians choose who's elected, and not the people.
      - duxup 2y ago
        2 parties and 2 choices certainly is a recipe for sending the wrong message. I'd like to see some ranked choice voting.
  - toyg 2y ago
    The GOP doesn't exist anymore, it's simply Trump Party. They live or die on his performance, and kiss his ring to exist.
Klonoar 2y ago
> This could have waited until after the midterms. On the contrary, he can just bury it in the first 48 hours. This will fade into the background soon enough but that group is kept happy.
weberer 2y ago
He also signed this executive order https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/delivering-emergency-price-relief-for-american-families-and-defeating-the-cost-of-living-crisis/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/deli...
Bluescreenbuddy 2y ago
The leopards will be feasting the next 4 years.

insane_dreamer 2y ago

> Trump seems to be a man of his word. when there's political gain, sure

blindriver 2y ago
You may not like Trump but I remember he fulfilled or attempted to fulfill a lot of his campaign promises back in 2016 as well. Biden, the career politician, talked a lot about many things before election and then forgot about them after he was elected. For example, universal health care. Obama promised to enshrine a woman's right to abortion as law, and then when he had the House and Senate after he was elected, he said "it's not a priority for me." Then we lost Roe V Wade.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  Trump did just about what every president does - makes promises and then does some of them, tries to some others (successful unless thwarted by Congress), and ignores others. Obama didn't have the votes in the Senate (to overcome the filibuster, also not as many Dems congressmen supported it as you might think). Neither did Clinton (people thought it would happen then)
  - bb88 2y ago
    I'm privately predicting the senate will remove the filibuster this term.
- mmooss 2y ago
  He also lies all the time about many things. People are are sometimes honest are called 'liars'. > when he had the House and Senate after he was elected, he said "it's not a priority for me." How could he get it through the Senate without a filibuster-proof majority?
- Nimitz14 2y ago
  When did Biden talk about universal healthcare? Let's go through Trump's campaign promises: Infrastructure, Border wall, increased US manufacturing, repealing ACA, "drain the swamp". He achieved zero of those. Biden in contrast followed up on his campaign promises: Infrastructure, increased US manufacturing, expanding ACA plus lowering costs. Among others.

jdjdjfhfkeksnc 2y ago

This is 100% true. I am posting from an anon account (obviously), but I was heavily involved in this. I worked with members of the party to push part of their strategy - mainly the coalition with trump and an effort to get vivek and elon involved. We spoke about this in 2023. I didn't care about Ross, had my own motivations, but I wrote some of their playback with AI and it worked. I didn't know about certain things (like the losing candidate for example). I wrote strategy that seems to have made its way all the way to Trump's team.

jdjdjfhfkeksnc 2y ago
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batch12 2y ago
Without proof this is just a bedtime story.
ttyprintk 2y ago
So, when Trump said that some of the same FBI agents involved in busting DPR also worked on Trump’s cases, how precise was that?

Dalewyn 2y ago

>Trump seems to be a man of his word. One of the big reasons I voted for him. He actually keeps the promises he made as far reality will allow. What's really stupid is that keeping promises made isn't the norm for politicians, of all kinds.

orblivion 2y ago

The LP candidate was nominated due to some fluke/shenanigans/dealings between candidates. Based on the right-leaning demographics you would not expect him to win. It just happened to work out perfectly to get the people who would never vote for him anyway to vote for Trump. (Meanwhile the chairwoman encouraged Biden supporters to vote for the LP candidate). Also, Trump actually got a mixed reception at the convention at best.

RockyMcNuts 2y ago

man of his word, ok. https://www.azquotes.com/quote/660639 https://www.azquotes.com/quote/660639