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I am happy to see that Trump is a man of his word. I voted for him just because of this campaign promise. I would have voted for almost anyone who promised this

I am happy to see that Trump is a man of his word. I voted for him just because of this campaign promise. I would have voted for almost anyone who promised this.

llamaimperative 2y ago
What were your number 2 and 3 issues, out of curiosity? Were there any accompanying policies that you would say, "despite promising to free Ross Ulbricht, I don't think accompanying Policy X would be worth it?"
dimator 2y ago
This one act was more important than the Paris agreement?
- macinjosh 2y ago
  Immensely more important than an ineffective agreement on an overblown problem.
  - lom 2y ago
    Wow, I couldn’t disagree more
- ein0p 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - CabSauce 2y ago
    You're right. I guess we just shouldn't do anything. And somehow it's virtue signaling and reduces output?
    - ein0p 2y ago
      Yes. If you stop producing steel (which we kinda did), and just buy it from China instead, you haven't "eliminated emissions". You've merely moved them to a country which is currently not subject to the environmental limits. We are on the same planet - in the long run it doesn't matter where you burn coal.
- tomjen3 2y ago
  Not OP, but yes, immensely. Two different galaxies. The Paris Agreement is a joke; it has done nothing. It's just a bunch of big-ass politicians and a few celebrities bloviating about not solving the problem. Look, I'm not disputing at all that global warming is an issue, or that we need to solve it, or that humans cause it, or whatever. But the Paris Agreement and those all other agreements are all about big idiots pretending to do stuff. Probably the most effective thing we have done globally to combat warming is changing to electric cars, and that's NOT the Paris Agreement. Not even close. The Paris Agreement is the ultimate politician's move. Global warming is a technical problem and must be solved by technical means. Ironically, the one person who is doing more than all the politicians combined to solve this is backing the current administration. Twitter is nuts over if he did a Nazi salute, while doing nothing to focus on solving what they believe is the biggest issue in our lifetimes.
  - ragazzina 2y ago
    >Probably the most effective thing we have done globally to combat warming is changing to electric cars, and that's NOT the Paris Agreement. What do you think about Trump's actions on electric cars then?
    - tomjen3 2y ago
      Despite being pissed off with the previous comment, I don’t generally think about Trump if I can avoid it. So I don’t know his specific policies here. I do know those of Elon Musk.
- ernst_klim 2y ago
  If Paris agreements cannot prevent tariffs on Chinese EV and Chinese solar panels, which are basically battling climate change on Chinese money, these agreements don't justify the cost of paper they are written on.
thfuran 2y ago
How could that possibly be the most important political issue?
- shadowgovt 2y ago
  Unless it's your day job: never try to unpack the priorities of a voter. You'll just get sad. (For consideration on this topic: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691138732/the-myth-of-the-rational-voter https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691138732/th...)
- plsbenice34 2y ago
  I am very sympathetic to the idea of voting just for Ross. It is unclear to me which candidate would be better, since neither of them are close to my political beliefs at all. It is a deadlock and I seem completely unrepresented. The consequences of voting based on any big issues I care about seems completely unpredictable; politics is a game of lies, smoke and mirrors. So I would perhaps rather vote for the candidate that would definitely save one person's life that is important to me.
thrance 2y ago
How do you feel about him backing down on H1B visas, price of groceries, peace in Ukraine...
npteljes 2y ago
>Trump is a man of his word. Trump's history contradicts this.
- macinjosh 2y ago
  Not in this case and this is the only one I care about. So pound sand?
  - npteljes 2y ago
    No.
subsection1h 2y ago
> I voted for him just because of this campaign promise. LOL. You're a conservative Christian[1] who thinks climate change is a hoax[2]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29187368 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29187368 [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?type=comment&query=author:macinjosh+climate https://hn.algolia.com/?type=comment&query=author:macinjosh+...
- macinjosh 2y ago
  LOL! You don’t know me. Seems you are pretty bigoted towards people not like you. How not progressive of you.

I am happy to see that Trump is a man of his word. I voted for him just because of this campaign promise. I would have voted for almost anyone who promised this.

llamaimperative 2y ago

What were your number 2 and 3 issues, out of curiosity? Were there any accompanying policies that you would say, "despite promising to free Ross Ulbricht, I don't think accompanying Policy X would be worth it?"

dimator 2y ago

This one act was more important than the Paris agreement?

macinjosh 2y ago
Immensely more important than an ineffective agreement on an overblown problem.
- lom 2y ago
  Wow, I couldn’t disagree more
ein0p 2y ago
[flagged]
- CabSauce 2y ago
  You're right. I guess we just shouldn't do anything. And somehow it's virtue signaling and reduces output?
  - ein0p 2y ago
    Yes. If you stop producing steel (which we kinda did), and just buy it from China instead, you haven't "eliminated emissions". You've merely moved them to a country which is currently not subject to the environmental limits. We are on the same planet - in the long run it doesn't matter where you burn coal.
tomjen3 2y ago
Not OP, but yes, immensely. Two different galaxies. The Paris Agreement is a joke; it has done nothing. It's just a bunch of big-ass politicians and a few celebrities bloviating about not solving the problem. Look, I'm not disputing at all that global warming is an issue, or that we need to solve it, or that humans cause it, or whatever. But the Paris Agreement and those all other agreements are all about big idiots pretending to do stuff. Probably the most effective thing we have done globally to combat warming is changing to electric cars, and that's NOT the Paris Agreement. Not even close. The Paris Agreement is the ultimate politician's move. Global warming is a technical problem and must be solved by technical means. Ironically, the one person who is doing more than all the politicians combined to solve this is backing the current administration. Twitter is nuts over if he did a Nazi salute, while doing nothing to focus on solving what they believe is the biggest issue in our lifetimes.
- ragazzina 2y ago
  >Probably the most effective thing we have done globally to combat warming is changing to electric cars, and that's NOT the Paris Agreement. What do you think about Trump's actions on electric cars then?
  - tomjen3 2y ago
    Despite being pissed off with the previous comment, I don’t generally think about Trump if I can avoid it. So I don’t know his specific policies here. I do know those of Elon Musk.
ernst_klim 2y ago
If Paris agreements cannot prevent tariffs on Chinese EV and Chinese solar panels, which are basically battling climate change on Chinese money, these agreements don't justify the cost of paper they are written on.

thfuran 2y ago

How could that possibly be the most important political issue?

shadowgovt 2y ago
Unless it's your day job: never try to unpack the priorities of a voter. You'll just get sad. (For consideration on this topic: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691138732/the-myth-of-the-rational-voter https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691138732/th...)
plsbenice34 2y ago
I am very sympathetic to the idea of voting just for Ross. It is unclear to me which candidate would be better, since neither of them are close to my political beliefs at all. It is a deadlock and I seem completely unrepresented. The consequences of voting based on any big issues I care about seems completely unpredictable; politics is a game of lies, smoke and mirrors. So I would perhaps rather vote for the candidate that would definitely save one person's life that is important to me.

thrance 2y ago

How do you feel about him backing down on H1B visas, price of groceries, peace in Ukraine...

npteljes 2y ago

>Trump is a man of his word. Trump's history contradicts this.

macinjosh 2y ago
Not in this case and this is the only one I care about. So pound sand?
- npteljes 2y ago
  No.

subsection1h 2y ago

> I voted for him just because of this campaign promise. LOL. You're a conservative Christian[1] who thinks climate change is a hoax[2]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29187368 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29187368 [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?type=comment&query=author:macinjosh+climate https://hn.algolia.com/?type=comment&query=author:macinjosh+...

macinjosh 2y ago
LOL! You don’t know me. Seems you are pretty bigoted towards people not like you. How not progressive of you.