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Hiring a hitman is legal now.

kyleyeats 2y ago
The seven offenses in question: distributing narcotics, distributing narcotics by means of the Internet, conspiring to distribute narcotics, engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise, conspiring to commit computer hacking, conspiring to traffic in false identity documents, and conspiring to commit money laundering
- ty6853 2y ago
  A judge bypassed the jury and prosecutor and sentenced him as if he hired hit men and admitted doing so. The sentence upgrade was based on a preponderance of evidence, whereas they would have had to proven beyond a reasonable doubt had he been charged.
  - FireBeyond 2y ago
    Framing this as judicial activism is false. Many sentencing arrangements include - with the agreement of the defendant (since it is their rights in this case) - to have other related activities factored in exactly this manner. It happens all the time in pleas and diversion agreements, so don’t frame it as a reckless lone judge going off the reservation.
1oooqooq 2y ago
blatant entrapment and gaslighting for more than a year by law enforcement dedicating 24h to it. the real criminals for that prank were never even tried.
- lolcatzlulz 2y ago
  Looks like the "real criminal" was charged. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/silk-road-drug-vendor-who-claimed-commit-murders-hire-silk-road-founder-ross-ulbricht https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/silk-road-drug-vendor-w...
  - 1oooqooq 2y ago
    wake me up when you get a cop working for you for over a year just to convince you that you have to hire his friend to kill your other employee
zoklet-enjoyer 2y ago
He was never tried for that. Don't believe the disinformation.
DannyBee 2y ago
To be fair - he was not pardoned for that, he could still be charged for it. He was only pardoned for crimes related to drugs.
- johnneville 2y ago
  do you know that is actually the case ? i've been trying to find the text of the pardon and haven't been able to yet. can only find Trump's description of it as "full and unconditional" edit: i see your other comment with the context
  - DannyBee 2y ago
    They unfortunately have not released the text yet. It should eventually pop up here: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-recipients https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-recipients (among other places)
    - DannyBee 2y ago
      It is now there, see - https://www.justice.gov/pardon/media/1386096/dl https://www.justice.gov/pardon/media/1386096/dl He was not pardoned for any crimes not charged, and therefore could still be charged.
      - tptacek 2y ago
        Does this mean California could go after Ulbricht for solicitation on the murder scheme, like, tomorrow?

The seven offenses in question: distributing narcotics, distributing narcotics by means of the Internet, conspiring to distribute narcotics, engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise, conspiring to commit computer hacking, conspiring to traffic in false identity documents, and conspiring to commit money laundering

ty6853 2y ago
A judge bypassed the jury and prosecutor and sentenced him as if he hired hit men and admitted doing so. The sentence upgrade was based on a preponderance of evidence, whereas they would have had to proven beyond a reasonable doubt had he been charged.
- FireBeyond 2y ago
  Framing this as judicial activism is false. Many sentencing arrangements include - with the agreement of the defendant (since it is their rights in this case) - to have other related activities factored in exactly this manner. It happens all the time in pleas and diversion agreements, so don’t frame it as a reckless lone judge going off the reservation.

1oooqooq 2y ago

blatant entrapment and gaslighting for more than a year by law enforcement dedicating 24h to it. the real criminals for that prank were never even tried.

lolcatzlulz 2y ago
Looks like the "real criminal" was charged. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/silk-road-drug-vendor-who-claimed-commit-murders-hire-silk-road-founder-ross-ulbricht https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/silk-road-drug-vendor-w...
- 1oooqooq 2y ago
  wake me up when you get a cop working for you for over a year just to convince you that you have to hire his friend to kill your other employee

zoklet-enjoyer 2y ago

He was never tried for that. Don't believe the disinformation.

DannyBee 2y ago

To be fair - he was not pardoned for that, he could still be charged for it. He was only pardoned for crimes related to drugs.

johnneville 2y ago
do you know that is actually the case ? i've been trying to find the text of the pardon and haven't been able to yet. can only find Trump's description of it as "full and unconditional" edit: i see your other comment with the context
- DannyBee 2y ago
  They unfortunately have not released the text yet. It should eventually pop up here: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-recipients https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-recipients (among other places)
  - DannyBee 2y ago
    It is now there, see - https://www.justice.gov/pardon/media/1386096/dl https://www.justice.gov/pardon/media/1386096/dl He was not pardoned for any crimes not charged, and therefore could still be charged.
    - tptacek 2y ago
      Does this mean California could go after Ulbricht for solicitation on the murder scheme, like, tomorrow?