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I am active in libertarian circles and Ulbricht was a cause celebre. The 2024 election was a game of inches, and many libertarians I know voted Trump purely on

I am active in libertarian circles and Ulbricht was a cause celebre. The 2024 election was a game of inches, and many libertarians I know voted Trump purely on this issue. It is possible this was a key way Trump eked out a victory.

ein0p 2y ago
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- simonw 2y ago
  It was a decisive electoral vote victory, but 2.3 million votes difference works out as 49.8% of the popular vote to 48.3% of the popular vote. I believe around 230,000 votes across Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin would have made the difference. I think that counts as eking, personally.
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- latentcall 2y ago
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- dralley 2y ago
  Winning by 1.6% is not a massive victory. It's actually a smaller margin than Hillary won the popular vote by in 2016 (despite losing the electoral vote).
- bdangubic 2y ago
  he lost be like 68 that much to grandpa Biden
dralley 2y ago
Libertarians are very hard to take seriously because of shit like this. Nothing about Donald Trump is Libertarian.
- defrost 2y ago
  However both Libertarians and Trump are transactional.
  - ty6853 2y ago
    I don't judge anyone too hard when they're willing to bend a bit to get someone out of jail after the key has been thrown away. I didn't vote Trump but I will admit the possibility of Ross being released made me pause when I marked my ballot, even his mom's image flashed in my mind and I felt guilty for not helping.
    - sirbutters 2y ago
      Of all the issues in this country that really has impact on millions of people, I am baffled when I hear people only caring about 1 person and not care about the common good of society and the hundreds of millions of people in the US who live in it. Fascinating and depressing.
- mannerheim 2y ago
  Biden could have taken the wind out of Trump's sails by commuting Ulbricht's sentence when he was in office. If you don't think a group's interests are worth listening to, don't be surprised when that group votes for someone who does.
- mindslight 2y ago
  Very little about the Libertarian party is libertarian. Yet another party carrying water for authoritarianism, with the difference being that the implementation is through corporations.
  - monero-xmr 2y ago
    Libertarians are a self selecting bunch. Very few were raised into this philosophy. You can appreciate that my self identification as a libertarian is a careful, reasoned decision and not one that was flippantly made. It is the philosophy that is the most accurate and truthful to me.

ein0p 2y ago

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simonw 2y ago
It was a decisive electoral vote victory, but 2.3 million votes difference works out as 49.8% of the popular vote to 48.3% of the popular vote. I believe around 230,000 votes across Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin would have made the difference. I think that counts as eking, personally.
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latentcall 2y ago
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dralley 2y ago
Winning by 1.6% is not a massive victory. It's actually a smaller margin than Hillary won the popular vote by in 2016 (despite losing the electoral vote).
bdangubic 2y ago
he lost be like 68 that much to grandpa Biden

dralley 2y ago

Libertarians are very hard to take seriously because of shit like this. Nothing about Donald Trump is Libertarian.

defrost 2y ago
However both Libertarians and Trump are transactional.
- ty6853 2y ago
  I don't judge anyone too hard when they're willing to bend a bit to get someone out of jail after the key has been thrown away. I didn't vote Trump but I will admit the possibility of Ross being released made me pause when I marked my ballot, even his mom's image flashed in my mind and I felt guilty for not helping.
  - sirbutters 2y ago
    Of all the issues in this country that really has impact on millions of people, I am baffled when I hear people only caring about 1 person and not care about the common good of society and the hundreds of millions of people in the US who live in it. Fascinating and depressing.
mannerheim 2y ago
Biden could have taken the wind out of Trump's sails by commuting Ulbricht's sentence when he was in office. If you don't think a group's interests are worth listening to, don't be surprised when that group votes for someone who does.
mindslight 2y ago
Very little about the Libertarian party is libertarian. Yet another party carrying water for authoritarianism, with the difference being that the implementation is through corporations.
- monero-xmr 2y ago
  Libertarians are a self selecting bunch. Very few were raised into this philosophy. You can appreciate that my self identification as a libertarian is a careful, reasoned decision and not one that was flippantly made. It is the philosophy that is the most accurate and truthful to me.