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Plenty of computer illiterate people abound. They’re delivering your food and keeping the streets swept. There’s more than enough work in the physical world. Yo

Plenty of computer illiterate people abound. They’re delivering your food and keeping the streets swept. There’s more than enough work in the physical world. Your hypothetical Karen will either retrain or fall behind and the world will go on. For a relatable present-day example of the structural unemployment you’re alluding to, consider the typical HN comment by the person who sent 500+ resumes only to get no response and/or be ghosted. Whatever skills they’re plying aren’t needed by employers - even though they’re software skills. Implying there exist sub-categories of software skills that are not needed in today’s economy. It’s possible for annyone to get left behind if they don’t upskill. But yet, unemployment in the US is insanely low: https://www.cbo.gov/publication/59431 https://www.cbo.gov/publication/59431 How do you square that circle? I don’t think there is or will be structural unemployment, but there’ll always be anecdotes to support fearmongering about it.

Havoc 2y ago
The current unemployment situation seems largely irrelevant to a future scenario where mass AI roll out happens. Things are likely to change somehow. Probably dramatically. So more of the same is probably not what the future holds > They’re delivering your food and keeping the streets swept And when we automate those? If you keep automating stuff eventually you run out of places to put the displaced people. Does that not seem intuitively logical to you? Upskilling doesn’t magically solve that problem. It just saturates a different level. Bit like going to Uni used to be a certain win now less so because everyone is going to Uni.
- cadamsdotcom 2y ago
  Who’s rolling out, managing, scaling, and iterating this mass AI? How many mass AIs are there going to need to be? Who’s deciding what to use it for?? Who’s auditing the mass AI’s output? Who will you call when the AI inevitably go off the rails? Who will debug the mass AI that went off the rails so the lessons can be learned and integrated into the next generation of mass AI? Who will build, deploy, and supervise that next generation of mass AI? These and other questions, attempted thoughtfully one by one, should make it harder and harder to hold on to a belief that we can ever run out of work for humans. The work will keep getting better as more is done for us - more creative, and less drudgerous; but it’ll never stop being directed by us because we are the interface to the human world.

Havoc 2y ago

The current unemployment situation seems largely irrelevant to a future scenario where mass AI roll out happens. Things are likely to change somehow. Probably dramatically. So more of the same is probably not what the future holds > They’re delivering your food and keeping the streets swept And when we automate those? If you keep automating stuff eventually you run out of places to put the displaced people. Does that not seem intuitively logical to you? Upskilling doesn’t magically solve that problem. It just saturates a different level. Bit like going to Uni used to be a certain win now less so because everyone is going to Uni.

cadamsdotcom 2y ago
Who’s rolling out, managing, scaling, and iterating this mass AI? How many mass AIs are there going to need to be? Who’s deciding what to use it for?? Who’s auditing the mass AI’s output? Who will you call when the AI inevitably go off the rails? Who will debug the mass AI that went off the rails so the lessons can be learned and integrated into the next generation of mass AI? Who will build, deploy, and supervise that next generation of mass AI? These and other questions, attempted thoughtfully one by one, should make it harder and harder to hold on to a belief that we can ever run out of work for humans. The work will keep getting better as more is done for us - more creative, and less drudgerous; but it’ll never stop being directed by us because we are the interface to the human world.