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How is that different from the parent holding the code?

linkregister 2y ago
Apple Screen Time will occasionally stop blocking applications, allowing the child account to use them without restrictions. Other drawbacks include only a single period of "down time" per day. There is also an inability to totally block applications; the closest analogue is to set a maximum of one minute for the website or application.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  not just occasionally but often, in our experience with multiple phones and iPads. I have 2 kids with devices and have found Screen Time completely useless. It is the right idea in theory but in practice it's broken (I'm guessing no Apple higher ups have young kids that they've tried to use this with.) Also, besides the resets (and by reset I mean not just time restrictions but content restrictions too), my kid can just bypass it by entering his AppleID password.
  - baxtr 2y ago
    There are many YouTube videos for teens on how to bypass ScreenTime. It’s a mess that Apple needs to clean up quickly
    - linkregister 2y ago
      For this reason a configuration profile [1] is the only fool proof method. However, I have only used them to deploy permanent content restrictions. I don't know of a way to enable or disable restrictions based on the time of day or a certain duration. 1. https://support.apple.com/guide/apple-configurator-mac/create-and-edit-configuration-profiles-pmd85719196/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/apple-configurator-mac/creat...
      - insane_dreamer 2y ago
        > enable or disable restrictions based on the time of day or a certain duration this is what I need
r0fl 2y ago
Screen time blocks are terrible I use them myself to limit some websites that waste my time It is way too easy to click on 1 more minute, or 15 mins or ignore for the day The only way to really block sites is to add them as adult websites and turn on parental controls But can’t do that with apps
Terr_ 2y ago
One scenario I can think of: When there's an occasion where you want to give them unlimited time, but you don't want to disclose the code and then later have to reset it to something new. Or you want to delegate permission to a babysitter. You just give them the doohickey and ask for it back later. (Cloning the NFC tag is a much harder job that remembering a PIN.)
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  Not unlike using a TPM to prevent users from copying copyrighted content while still allowing controlled access.
  - Terr_ 2y ago
    That seems like a rather unfair comparison, tarring "parent won't let child watch movies after bedtime" with the same brush as "international megacorp sabotages hardware you own in profit-seeking paranoia." Heck, in many jurisdiction the device is owned by the parents anyway, not the kid.
    - HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
      Nah, it's fair.

Apple Screen Time will occasionally stop blocking applications, allowing the child account to use them without restrictions. Other drawbacks include only a single period of "down time" per day. There is also an inability to totally block applications; the closest analogue is to set a maximum of one minute for the website or application.

insane_dreamer 2y ago
not just occasionally but often, in our experience with multiple phones and iPads. I have 2 kids with devices and have found Screen Time completely useless. It is the right idea in theory but in practice it's broken (I'm guessing no Apple higher ups have young kids that they've tried to use this with.) Also, besides the resets (and by reset I mean not just time restrictions but content restrictions too), my kid can just bypass it by entering his AppleID password.
- baxtr 2y ago
  There are many YouTube videos for teens on how to bypass ScreenTime. It’s a mess that Apple needs to clean up quickly
  - linkregister 2y ago
    For this reason a configuration profile [1] is the only fool proof method. However, I have only used them to deploy permanent content restrictions. I don't know of a way to enable or disable restrictions based on the time of day or a certain duration. 1. https://support.apple.com/guide/apple-configurator-mac/create-and-edit-configuration-profiles-pmd85719196/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/apple-configurator-mac/creat...
    - insane_dreamer 2y ago
      > enable or disable restrictions based on the time of day or a certain duration this is what I need

r0fl 2y ago

Screen time blocks are terrible I use them myself to limit some websites that waste my time It is way too easy to click on 1 more minute, or 15 mins or ignore for the day The only way to really block sites is to add them as adult websites and turn on parental controls But can’t do that with apps

Terr_ 2y ago

One scenario I can think of: When there's an occasion where you want to give them unlimited time, but you don't want to disclose the code and then later have to reset it to something new. Or you want to delegate permission to a babysitter. You just give them the doohickey and ask for it back later. (Cloning the NFC tag is a much harder job that remembering a PIN.)

HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
Not unlike using a TPM to prevent users from copying copyrighted content while still allowing controlled access.
- Terr_ 2y ago
  That seems like a rather unfair comparison, tarring "parent won't let child watch movies after bedtime" with the same brush as "international megacorp sabotages hardware you own in profit-seeking paranoia." Heck, in many jurisdiction the device is owned by the parents anyway, not the kid.
  - HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
    Nah, it's fair.