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"too political for you" kind of sounds pre-sneerish, like, "can you handle it?". I think most adults naturally respond to "I'm just trying to test you" with "I'

by pvg 2y ago

"too political for you" kind of sounds pre-sneerish, like, "can you handle it?". I think most adults naturally respond to "I'm just trying to test you" with "I'm just trying to tell you to go fuck yourself". Maybe that wasn't your intent, I'm just describing how it comes across. Yesterdays response further confused me as the community discussion in the flagged article seemed to lean more towards unflagging than support for the flag remaining. What you see in those comments is not necessarily more representative of community sentiment than the flags. I think both the type of controversy and the fact that it generated several meta threads give the misimpression this is some sort of moderation (both user and admin) outlier. But it's not, it's how HN operates all the time, it's a big part of what makes it HN rather than some other forum with different goals and conventions. Most current events stuff is 'moderated' away (by nonvoting, flagging, sometimes mod involvement, etc) as largely offtopic. There are occasional exceptions but in general, it's just not what the place is set up for.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago
First let me apologize that I posted in a way that you took that feeling from it. It was mean to be ironic humor to foster communication not smug and stifle it. 'too political' is the policy label HN uses. That I am referencing the term used seems like good faith and it would be odd and reduce comprehension for me to invent a new descriptor. My intention with linking to a boring 1940s 'nazi's bad' film that has been non-political consensus for 80 years as a starting point that no one could possibly think is political was to be ironic not sneering. I thought I was asking 'between the clearly not political consensus that nazis are bad... and the richest man on earth flaunting nazi symbolism multiple time at the current President's inauguration... where does the 'too political' HN flag kick in?'. I'll try to avoid humor when making statements that people can feel judged by. I think the I/P conflict being a special case immune from HN flagging is what threw extra confusion in the mix for me. The multiple I/P posts left up which have way less relevance to tech and are way more political than yesterday's events (because for 80 years before yesterday 'sieg heil bad at Presidential inaugurations' wasn't considered political and I still don't see it as political just horrific, to be honest.) gave me the impression ongoing exceptions were routinely made but now I understand those were special I/P conflict exceptions that this didn't rise to.

by pvg 2y ago

_DeadFred_ 2y ago

First let me apologize that I posted in a way that you took that feeling from it. It was mean to be ironic humor to foster communication not smug and stifle it. 'too political' is the policy label HN uses. That I am referencing the term used seems like good faith and it would be odd and reduce comprehension for me to invent a new descriptor. My intention with linking to a boring 1940s 'nazi's bad' film that has been non-political consensus for 80 years as a starting point that no one could possibly think is political was to be ironic not sneering. I thought I was asking 'between the clearly not political consensus that nazis are bad... and the richest man on earth flaunting nazi symbolism multiple time at the current President's inauguration... where does the 'too political' HN flag kick in?'. I'll try to avoid humor when making statements that people can feel judged by. I think the I/P conflict being a special case immune from HN flagging is what threw extra confusion in the mix for me. The multiple I/P posts left up which have way less relevance to tech and are way more political than yesterday's events (because for 80 years before yesterday 'sieg heil bad at Presidential inaugurations' wasn't considered political and I still don't see it as political just horrific, to be honest.) gave me the impression ongoing exceptions were routinely made but now I understand those were special I/P conflict exceptions that this didn't rise to.