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I'm curious why the NFC tags are required at all? Can't you switch profiles on your phone without scanning an NFC tag already? Couldn't your app allow profile

I'm curious why the NFC tags are required at all? Can't you switch profiles on your phone without scanning an NFC tag already? Couldn't your app allow profile switching without requiring any NFC tags? It's not clear to me what the NFC tags add to this experience.

kojeovo 2y ago
I think its so that you can't easily toggle them off by using the phone software. for example, you are trying to get work done so you set two up: a focus one by your desk, another somewhere else where you have to get up. so you have to get up and walk over to the 2nd one to turn off the focus mode
enoch_r 2y ago
It's a commitment device - e.g. leave your "mindless scrolling" NFC tag at home so you don't mindlessly scroll while you're out.
wduquette 2y ago
I was wondering that myself. At a guess, you put a tag at each focus location for the kind of focus you do at that location. At your desk, you put a tag that enables your working focus. At your bedside, you put a tag that enables your sleep focus. Sounds cool but unnecessary.
- dingnuts 2y ago
  necessary for those of us who forget what they're doing whenever they open their phone. The ability to tell my phone "shut up I'm at my desk" without opening it and being confronted with the home screen & notifications (and then forget what I was doing) is a super cool idea. I have ADHD though
hecanjog 2y ago
It appealed to me since the way I block distractions is easy for me to unblock them, too. (like HN, I unblocked it to look for commentary on the bitbucket outage and now I'm reading random articles) If unblocking via software is easy too, this doesn't really work, but I could see giving the physical tag to a friend or leaving it somewhere in a different building causing enough friction for me to reconsider if I really want to go to the effort just to look at some news headlines.
- yieldcrv 2y ago
  what I want is social screentime approval on iphone, the built in screentime app is just a face id approval or your pin code, but what if instead you had to request approval and your friends on FindMy were the only people that could approve, by consensus
riso 2y ago
The app does allow manually switching of profiles, without NFC tags, but it wasn't clear until I installed the app.
- awaseem 2y ago
  Yeah lot of feedback on better demos, learning moment for sure!
  - timisthief 2y ago
    Couldn’t figure out how to switch profiles without nfc tags even after installing the app. Could you please let me know?
- timisthief 2y ago
  How do I do this?
awaseem 2y ago
yeah 100% you can totally just use whats built into your phone, there's actually no need for any of these apps. I found that having this physical deterrent keeps myself accountable, that's kinda the reason I built it and showcased it
PaulHoule 2y ago
NFC tags cost about 20 cents and they are easy to use, tied to a place, etc. I've done a lot of thinking about cyberphysical art that used to look like https://mastodon.social/@UP8/111013706271196029 https://mastodon.social/@UP8/111013706271196029 and now look like https://bsky.app/profile/up-8.bsky.social/post/3lbqfh7pesc2x https://bsky.app/profile/up-8.bsky.social/post/3lbqfh7pesc2x Notably with the QR code on the back I found people didn't understand the branding of the card and had to flip it over to know the affordances it offers which didn't work when the card was stuck to the wall, as in https://bsky.app/profile/up-8.bsky.social/post/3lbftgz6kok2c https://bsky.app/profile/up-8.bsky.social/post/3lbftgz6kok2c I researched NFC tags as an option here and bought a 100 pack and a Sony FeliCa reader but found the problem of "communicating the affordance is available" was much worse, there's no standard logo (except one that belongs to the banks that they wouldn't give me permission to use) and not much awareness. I was irritated that NFC support is limited in iPads, for instance. So I stuck with QR codes that people understand.
runjake 2y ago
For those curious, this is called Focus and is pretty highly configurable after a little learning curve. You can use automations to switch modes by calendar, date/time, GPS location, connected Wi-Fi network, etc. No programming required. Programmable via Shortcuts, too! https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/set-up-a-focus-iphd6288a67f/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/set-up-a-focus-iphd62...
- miki123211 2y ago
  Ever since focuses got introduced, I really soured on the idea of a physical mute/ring switch. Having my phone ring at home and vibrate when away is the most obvious use case for this feature, and yet it can't be implemented because you can't toggle a physical switch in hardware. I know the latest generation iPhones don't have those, and I think that's the right decision, but it's still disappointing for older-gen users.
  - Aerbil313 2y ago
    You can associate a location schedule with Focuses, which can include Silent mode as a filter. Also you can set shortcuts to automatically run when you enter a physical location.
barnabee 2y ago
For a while I stuck NFC tags on the MagSafe charger/stands in various places (at my desk, by my bed, etc.) to swifch profiles (which can be done just using shortcuts, as others have mentioned). It worked pretty nicely but in the end I found it not to be all that useful and I’d be frustrated by the profile change as often as I was happy with it.
vijucat 2y ago
Attach that NFC tag to a 40 kg weight in the other room (and commit to carrying the weight to the phone, not the other way round ;) ), then you might appreciate the value-add. We are very physical creatures.

kojeovo 2y ago

I think its so that you can't easily toggle them off by using the phone software. for example, you are trying to get work done so you set two up: a focus one by your desk, another somewhere else where you have to get up. so you have to get up and walk over to the 2nd one to turn off the focus mode

enoch_r 2y ago

It's a commitment device - e.g. leave your "mindless scrolling" NFC tag at home so you don't mindlessly scroll while you're out.

wduquette 2y ago

I was wondering that myself. At a guess, you put a tag at each focus location for the kind of focus you do at that location. At your desk, you put a tag that enables your working focus. At your bedside, you put a tag that enables your sleep focus. Sounds cool but unnecessary.

dingnuts 2y ago
necessary for those of us who forget what they're doing whenever they open their phone. The ability to tell my phone "shut up I'm at my desk" without opening it and being confronted with the home screen & notifications (and then forget what I was doing) is a super cool idea. I have ADHD though

hecanjog 2y ago

It appealed to me since the way I block distractions is easy for me to unblock them, too. (like HN, I unblocked it to look for commentary on the bitbucket outage and now I'm reading random articles) If unblocking via software is easy too, this doesn't really work, but I could see giving the physical tag to a friend or leaving it somewhere in a different building causing enough friction for me to reconsider if I really want to go to the effort just to look at some news headlines.

yieldcrv 2y ago
what I want is social screentime approval on iphone, the built in screentime app is just a face id approval or your pin code, but what if instead you had to request approval and your friends on FindMy were the only people that could approve, by consensus

riso 2y ago

The app does allow manually switching of profiles, without NFC tags, but it wasn't clear until I installed the app.

awaseem 2y ago
Yeah lot of feedback on better demos, learning moment for sure!
- timisthief 2y ago
  Couldn’t figure out how to switch profiles without nfc tags even after installing the app. Could you please let me know?
timisthief 2y ago
How do I do this?

awaseem 2y ago

yeah 100% you can totally just use whats built into your phone, there's actually no need for any of these apps. I found that having this physical deterrent keeps myself accountable, that's kinda the reason I built it and showcased it

PaulHoule 2y ago

NFC tags cost about 20 cents and they are easy to use, tied to a place, etc. I've done a lot of thinking about cyberphysical art that used to look like https://mastodon.social/@UP8/111013706271196029 https://mastodon.social/@UP8/111013706271196029 and now look like https://bsky.app/profile/up-8.bsky.social/post/3lbqfh7pesc2x https://bsky.app/profile/up-8.bsky.social/post/3lbqfh7pesc2x Notably with the QR code on the back I found people didn't understand the branding of the card and had to flip it over to know the affordances it offers which didn't work when the card was stuck to the wall, as in https://bsky.app/profile/up-8.bsky.social/post/3lbftgz6kok2c https://bsky.app/profile/up-8.bsky.social/post/3lbftgz6kok2c I researched NFC tags as an option here and bought a 100 pack and a Sony FeliCa reader but found the problem of "communicating the affordance is available" was much worse, there's no standard logo (except one that belongs to the banks that they wouldn't give me permission to use) and not much awareness. I was irritated that NFC support is limited in iPads, for instance. So I stuck with QR codes that people understand.

runjake 2y ago

For those curious, this is called Focus and is pretty highly configurable after a little learning curve. You can use automations to switch modes by calendar, date/time, GPS location, connected Wi-Fi network, etc. No programming required. Programmable via Shortcuts, too! https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/set-up-a-focus-iphd6288a67f/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/set-up-a-focus-iphd62...

miki123211 2y ago
Ever since focuses got introduced, I really soured on the idea of a physical mute/ring switch. Having my phone ring at home and vibrate when away is the most obvious use case for this feature, and yet it can't be implemented because you can't toggle a physical switch in hardware. I know the latest generation iPhones don't have those, and I think that's the right decision, but it's still disappointing for older-gen users.
- Aerbil313 2y ago
  You can associate a location schedule with Focuses, which can include Silent mode as a filter. Also you can set shortcuts to automatically run when you enter a physical location.

barnabee 2y ago

For a while I stuck NFC tags on the MagSafe charger/stands in various places (at my desk, by my bed, etc.) to swifch profiles (which can be done just using shortcuts, as others have mentioned). It worked pretty nicely but in the end I found it not to be all that useful and I’d be frustrated by the profile change as often as I was happy with it.

vijucat 2y ago

Attach that NFC tag to a 40 kg weight in the other room (and commit to carrying the weight to the phone, not the other way round ;) ), then you might appreciate the value-add. We are very physical creatures.