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Genuinely curious, what do you need to change mid-run on your watch? I set an apple music playlist to start, open a run on WorkOutDoors, and go. I really am onl

Genuinely curious, what do you need to change mid-run on your watch? I set an apple music playlist to start, open a run on WorkOutDoors, and go. I really am only interested in heart rate, distance traveled and pace. And if I need to stop for anything walking back to my apartment after a session I have apple pay. Granted, I'm not a serious runner, I only do it as a supplement for my muay thai training (i.e. I'm only running 5-8k at like a 4'30" or so pace). So I guess I'm interested in what runners who are running as their primary sport like about the Garmin, as I often hear people say the Garmin is so much better.

KPGv2 2y ago
FWIW there are a lot of features that are really great on a run, but you might have to switch screens or even manipulate the screen. For instance, zoom in and out on a map. Or instruct your watch to re-route you to the fastest way home, or start guiding you the reverse way you came so you end up doubling your distance when you get back home. You might have other sensors feeding info and the data doesn't all fit on one screen. Maybe you want to control music playback and find playlists subpar (you might want to change based on how you feel in the moment, or pick another podcast because you added time onto your run or the other one ended up being boring, etc.). Play music and run is fine for lots of people, though, so I'm not surprised it works for you.
- mtalantikite 2y ago
  Ok yeah, the map stuff makes a lot of sense then, if I were out on trails or somewhere unfamiliar I can see that being very helpful. I'm always just running the bridges of NYC, so it's hard to get lost! Although I might get more serious this year so I can run the ridiculous williamsburg bridge marathon [1], so maybe I'll check out what I'm missing with Garmin. [1] https://www.williamsburgbridgemarathon.com/ https://www.williamsburgbridgemarathon.com/
jean-bonneau 2y ago
I'm usually on the same main screen with time/distance/heart rate, but when I change screen that would mostly be for: - Map/routing, useful for trail running or when running in an area you are unfamiliar with - Elevation, vertical speed (useful for trail running too) - Workouts (steps/next step/instructions/duration/etc.)
hiq 2y ago
Besides the various metrics other have mentioned (and which you could in theory put all in one screen, unless you're interested in a lot of them), you might want to interact with the workout and e.g. set it to the next interval. If you planned a 15min warmup at low pace but already feel good after 10min, you might want to already go to the main part of your workout. On Garmin that's one button away, I'd be annoyed if I had to touch the screen for that.
- mikestew 2y ago
  Apple Watch Ultra has that functionality by default using the Action button. Most workout functionality is usable with just the buttons.
- mtalantikite 2y ago
  Oh interesting, so is this for separating out metrics for your main part of your run versus warmup? I guess I don't intentionally warmup so I've never thought to need that, but I can see that being useful for people that are more professional where seconds on your pace count. I tend to just look at the splits in WorkOutDoors and see "ok yeah I ran the first km at 5' and the last at 4'23", I should try to bring the middle kms down a bit next time".
  - hiq 2y ago
    > is this for separating out metrics for your main part of your run versus warmup That's one aspect that's relevant once you're done, the other one relevant during the workout is that you can set different targets for different parts of your workout, e.g. you want to be at 100 bpm during your warmup, 160 bpm during a 4min interval, then rest 2min at 120bpm, things like that. If you don't strictly follow the program you initially planned (e.g. you want to have as much rest as you feel you need) then you'd have to interact with your watch.
sylens 2y ago
I may want to pause my run for certain reasons - one time I came across a woman whose dog got off the leash so I helped him corral him before continuing on. There's also times I want to skip a song on my playlist because it's not fitting the current pace/vibe of my run. Always easier to do with physical buttons.
- mtalantikite 2y ago
  Yeah agreed, the long touch to pause your workout when sweaty is annoying. Although WorkOutDoors has decent auto-pause. Definitely easier to navigate a playlist with physical buttons -- I run with airpods and just do the double/triple touch on them for forward/back.

KPGv2 2y ago

FWIW there are a lot of features that are really great on a run, but you might have to switch screens or even manipulate the screen. For instance, zoom in and out on a map. Or instruct your watch to re-route you to the fastest way home, or start guiding you the reverse way you came so you end up doubling your distance when you get back home. You might have other sensors feeding info and the data doesn't all fit on one screen. Maybe you want to control music playback and find playlists subpar (you might want to change based on how you feel in the moment, or pick another podcast because you added time onto your run or the other one ended up being boring, etc.). Play music and run is fine for lots of people, though, so I'm not surprised it works for you.

mtalantikite 2y ago
Ok yeah, the map stuff makes a lot of sense then, if I were out on trails or somewhere unfamiliar I can see that being very helpful. I'm always just running the bridges of NYC, so it's hard to get lost! Although I might get more serious this year so I can run the ridiculous williamsburg bridge marathon [1], so maybe I'll check out what I'm missing with Garmin. [1] https://www.williamsburgbridgemarathon.com/ https://www.williamsburgbridgemarathon.com/

jean-bonneau 2y ago

I'm usually on the same main screen with time/distance/heart rate, but when I change screen that would mostly be for: - Map/routing, useful for trail running or when running in an area you are unfamiliar with - Elevation, vertical speed (useful for trail running too) - Workouts (steps/next step/instructions/duration/etc.)

hiq 2y ago

Besides the various metrics other have mentioned (and which you could in theory put all in one screen, unless you're interested in a lot of them), you might want to interact with the workout and e.g. set it to the next interval. If you planned a 15min warmup at low pace but already feel good after 10min, you might want to already go to the main part of your workout. On Garmin that's one button away, I'd be annoyed if I had to touch the screen for that.

mikestew 2y ago
Apple Watch Ultra has that functionality by default using the Action button. Most workout functionality is usable with just the buttons.
mtalantikite 2y ago
Oh interesting, so is this for separating out metrics for your main part of your run versus warmup? I guess I don't intentionally warmup so I've never thought to need that, but I can see that being useful for people that are more professional where seconds on your pace count. I tend to just look at the splits in WorkOutDoors and see "ok yeah I ran the first km at 5' and the last at 4'23", I should try to bring the middle kms down a bit next time".
- hiq 2y ago
  > is this for separating out metrics for your main part of your run versus warmup That's one aspect that's relevant once you're done, the other one relevant during the workout is that you can set different targets for different parts of your workout, e.g. you want to be at 100 bpm during your warmup, 160 bpm during a 4min interval, then rest 2min at 120bpm, things like that. If you don't strictly follow the program you initially planned (e.g. you want to have as much rest as you feel you need) then you'd have to interact with your watch.

sylens 2y ago

I may want to pause my run for certain reasons - one time I came across a woman whose dog got off the leash so I helped him corral him before continuing on. There's also times I want to skip a song on my playlist because it's not fitting the current pace/vibe of my run. Always easier to do with physical buttons.

mtalantikite 2y ago
Yeah agreed, the long touch to pause your workout when sweaty is annoying. Although WorkOutDoors has decent auto-pause. Definitely easier to navigate a playlist with physical buttons -- I run with airpods and just do the double/triple touch on them for forward/back.