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Ask HN: Is this too political for Hacker News? [video]

4 points by _DeadFred_ 2y ago

_DeadFred_ 2y ago
Since 'flag worthy' seems more of a feels thing than anything tangible here I'm interested in seeing if this is too political for Hacker News and flag worthy so we can get a better baseline of what this community find off limits to discuss.
- pvg 2y ago
  You can't put your comment in the title on HN, especially not if it's a goady meta one. So I don't think 'political' comes into it for this sort of post - it breaks the site guidelines in a straightforward, generic way.
  - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
    Was supposed to be an Ask HN but apparently I messed it up.
    - pvg 2y ago
      You'll probably want to check out some of the moderation comments linked here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42781655 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42781655
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rc_mob 2y ago
Yes, but also your title is terrible. and I dont think this is tech related I understand that Elon is a nazi though
- _DeadFred_ 2y ago
  It's very much community related though. We have an un-regulated process that the community decides the boundaries for. I think it's legitimate to ask the community to help publically define what those boundaries are? Think of it as a documentation request for the wet-ware algorithm.
  - pvg 2y ago
    We have an un-regulated process that the community decides the boundaries for. That's not a very accurate description of how HN works. Think of it as a documentation request for the wet-ware algorithm. You can try to do that by asking directly, either other users, or the moderators. But the site itself is for conversation, not running weird 'experiments'. Most people respond highly negatively to this sort of thing, whatever the topic - the gotchaness and the goadiness (along with a hint of pre-sneering) completely overwhelm whatever else it might be about.
    - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
      My bad. Doesn't look like I can delete my submission. I apologize for coming off gotcha, gloaty, or sneering I thought I was being pretty blunt. I was genuinely surprised yesterday and realized I have a huge misunderstanding about how things operate here. On the Elon thread dang stated that users flag articles and implied that user flagging was the overriding arbiter of authority on HN and linked https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42775519 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42775519 (implying flagging/community consensus is above the mods) which is how I came to my 'not very accurate description of how HN works'. Yesterdays response further confused me as the community discussion in the flagged article seemed to lean more towards unflagging than support for the flag remaining. Thanks for clarifying that I still misunderstand. I will ask others still in the bay area for more insight directly and refrain from talking/asking about HN on HN. Honest question what is pre-sneering? Maybe you are mistaking my shock at events yesterday and the position taken here for sneering? I have to admit I am extremely shocked and disillusioned. But I'm definitely not sneering. I think you are mistaking my not obeying in advance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tocssf3w80 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tocssf3w80) and asking a very blunt question for some sort of juvenile internet snark. I think responding negatively and how I assumed most people would to outright Nazi behavior and defense/deflection/headburrying of it is different than run of the mill internet snark/sneering. I guess keeping with that post about being post-authenticity yesterday maybe somehow challenging actual nazi behavior is now somehow un-authentic/sneering.

4 points by _DeadFred_ 2y ago

Since 'flag worthy' seems more of a feels thing than anything tangible here I'm interested in seeing if this is too political for Hacker News and flag worthy so we can get a better baseline of what this community find off limits to discuss.

pvg 2y ago
You can't put your comment in the title on HN, especially not if it's a goady meta one. So I don't think 'political' comes into it for this sort of post - it breaks the site guidelines in a straightforward, generic way.
- _DeadFred_ 2y ago
  Was supposed to be an Ask HN but apparently I messed it up.
  - pvg 2y ago
    You'll probably want to check out some of the moderation comments linked here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42781655 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42781655

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rc_mob 2y ago

Yes, but also your title is terrible. and I dont think this is tech related I understand that Elon is a nazi though

_DeadFred_ 2y ago
It's very much community related though. We have an un-regulated process that the community decides the boundaries for. I think it's legitimate to ask the community to help publically define what those boundaries are? Think of it as a documentation request for the wet-ware algorithm.
- pvg 2y ago
  We have an un-regulated process that the community decides the boundaries for. That's not a very accurate description of how HN works. Think of it as a documentation request for the wet-ware algorithm. You can try to do that by asking directly, either other users, or the moderators. But the site itself is for conversation, not running weird 'experiments'. Most people respond highly negatively to this sort of thing, whatever the topic - the gotchaness and the goadiness (along with a hint of pre-sneering) completely overwhelm whatever else it might be about.
  - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
    My bad. Doesn't look like I can delete my submission. I apologize for coming off gotcha, gloaty, or sneering I thought I was being pretty blunt. I was genuinely surprised yesterday and realized I have a huge misunderstanding about how things operate here. On the Elon thread dang stated that users flag articles and implied that user flagging was the overriding arbiter of authority on HN and linked https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42775519 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42775519 (implying flagging/community consensus is above the mods) which is how I came to my 'not very accurate description of how HN works'. Yesterdays response further confused me as the community discussion in the flagged article seemed to lean more towards unflagging than support for the flag remaining. Thanks for clarifying that I still misunderstand. I will ask others still in the bay area for more insight directly and refrain from talking/asking about HN on HN. Honest question what is pre-sneering? Maybe you are mistaking my shock at events yesterday and the position taken here for sneering? I have to admit I am extremely shocked and disillusioned. But I'm definitely not sneering. I think you are mistaking my not obeying in advance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tocssf3w80 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tocssf3w80) and asking a very blunt question for some sort of juvenile internet snark. I think responding negatively and how I assumed most people would to outright Nazi behavior and defense/deflection/headburrying of it is different than run of the mill internet snark/sneering. I guess keeping with that post about being post-authenticity yesterday maybe somehow challenging actual nazi behavior is now somehow un-authentic/sneering.