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Eh, that's improvement, but the world didn't change because of a small forest.
by jf22 2y ago
Eh, that's improvement, but the world didn't change because of a small forest.
- latexr 2y agoYou (and your parent comment) said “make the world a better place”, not “change” it. Very few things change the world meaningfully. And the point stands: what he did was more relevant than most (if not all) Facebook communities will ever accomplish.
- jf22 2y agoSplitting hairs. If you use a platform nobody uses to try and change the world you won't change it just like if you tried to plant trees without using seeds.
- latexr 2y agoThe point is precisely that you don’t need a social networking platform to do something meaningful.
- jf22 2y agoI don't think the author was talking about isolated change like planting some seeds. Real change requires humans to collaborate and work together.
- latexr 2y ago> isolated The whole thread is about limited and well-defined communities, not the world. What the OP wants is specifically “isolated”. > like planting some seeds Spending thirty years planting a 550 hectare forest and restoring wildlife to it is not “planting some seeds”. Please don’t be reductive. > Real change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman Change is change. You don’t get to define someone’s life work, which was more meaningful and impactful than most of us will ever achieve, not “real” to fit your narrow definition.
- scarface_74 2y ago50K people is a limited community to move to another platform???
- latexr 2y agoYes, yes it is. By definition. “Limited” means “restricted in size”, not “an arbitrary number a random person thinks is small”. From the moment OP defined “this is for this specific community of this size”, it is limited. It will be abundantly clear when they have moved no one, or every one, or a critical mass, or not enough. Because it’s limited, bounded, constrained.
- scarface_74 2y agoWell in that case so is the total population of earth.
- latexr 2y agoWe’re not discussing the total population of the Earth. The thing about words is that their meaning may depend on context. If we were discussing everyone who has lived and will ever live, the current population of the world would be a limited snapshot. Same if we were discussing every planet and civilisation in the fictional world of Start Trek. But we’re not discussing that. Making up something we’re not talking about to attack what we are is called a straw man argument.
- scarface_74 2y agoAnd for the purposes of the stated goal, for one person or even a company to get 50K people to switch from Facebook or to use another platform especially when all someone else has to do is start a group on Facebook, might as well be “the number of people on earth” difficult.
- latexr 2y ago
- gabruoy 2y agoHe very literally did change the world. There wasn’t a forest there and now there is. In fact the conception of “the world” as an abstract global concept is much less impactful than what people see outside their window and in their city/community.