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While I've seen all the points made in the article (besides some that wouldn't work outside of this particular religious context), they are well laid out and hi
by monsieurbanana 2y ago
While I've seen all the points made in the article (besides some that wouldn't work outside of this particular religious context), they are well laid out and highlight not only the technological limitations, but also the moral implications of building a llm product.
Moral issues that are not limited to religion, I've had conversations with a friend where I was trying to explain to them that their llm website idea will, with certainty, mislead people at some point. I think the exact idea was to build a gpt-based trip planner. I'd hate to have someone spend time and money on hotel, transportations, etc... To end up stranded in the middle of nowhere.
Anyway, the article came out 4 months ago and the chatbox is still there.
> Which programming language would allow me to get closer to God?
> If I had to choose a programming language that reflects some aspect of God's nature, I would say that a language with a strong emphasis on order, logic, and beauty, such as Python, could be seen as a reflection of God's character. The Bible says, "God is not a God of disorder but of peace" (1 Corinthians 14:33, ESV), and Python's simplicity and readability can be seen as a reflection of this aspect of God's nature.
At least we got that one out of the way.
- Verdex 2y agoCareful there. Isaiah 55:11 "so shall My word be that goeth forth out of My mouth: It shall not return unto Me void" There's a real chance that God is a functional forth programmer.
- rtkwe 2y agoWe also know that the Apostles all shared a Honda accord too, Acts 5:12: “They were all with one Accord” and that God was more of a classic car guy and drove a Plymouth Fury, from Jeremiah 32:37: “He drove them out of the land in His Fury”.
- AnonymousPlanet 2y agoThat's a wonderful little lesson about the perils of using outdated translations. I'm leaning towards Bob Kanefsky on this one and suspect all was beautifully hacked together in Lisp.
- layer8 2y agoIt’s really Perl, though: https://xkcd.com/224/ https://xkcd.com/224/
- ASalazarMX 2y agoForth? God likely programs in machine language, as even Assembly is a crutch for mere mortals to glimpse divinity. Even more, it looks like he might be a computer himself! > John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
- TheNewsIsHere 2y agoGod was Clippy all along?
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- layer8 2y agoIt looks like you're creating a world. Would you like help? • Get help with creating the world • Just create the world without help [ ] Don't show me this tip again
- dartos 2y agoIt’s pretty well known that god wrote the universe in lisp and a ball of Perl scripts.
- strangattractor 2y agoIf God actually exists and cares about programmers why did he let BrainF*k exist?
- scotty79 2y agoTo punish the wicked.
- strangattractor 2y agoThat little quip of mine actually got downvoted by someone. HackerNews readers are a fickle bunch.
- scotty79 2y agoI got just one upvote. Humor here is occasionally appreciated but not strongly and not often.
- greenavocado 2y ago> Which programming language would allow me to get closer to God? The answer is obviously HolyC. Full stop. And the operating system you would use to communicate with God is TempleOS.
- dmd 2y agoNot sure I want to get any closer to the sort of god that allows the kind of suffering Terry Davis went through.
- ASalazarMX 2y agoI'm going Devil's Advocate (ha ha) and point out that some people believe suffering makes us closer, and worthy, in the eyes of God. Even Mother Teresa was criticized for thinking that suffering was a gift from God, so she didn't consider analgesics and overall comfort a priority.
- exe34 2y ago> she didn't consider analgesics and overall comfort a priority. only for others. for herself, she got the best treatment donation money can buy.
- hitekker 2y agoIIRC, analgesics/comfort were actually considered but Mother Theresa’s hospices couldn’t afford it. They were in the slums of India decades ago. Hence, why they were hospices not hospitals
- polishdude20 2y agoDidn't she get loads of donations and money once she started meeting famous people and becoming famous herself?
- RandomBacon 2y agoAre you someone who constantly seeks to change or "improve" things? Apparently she had something that worked, so why fix something that isn't broken? "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." ― Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
- biomcgary 2y agoA Christian recommending a serpent-named language to get closer to God is pretty entertaining. What about Go "and make disciples"?
- vineyardmike 2y agoAh yes, go, a language created by one of the most powerful modern institutions. Its rules and dogma are pretty strict and it’s hard to change them without being in the inner circle. Some people on the outside obsess over the language and sing praises over the rules it imposes while others spend their days endlessly complaining about them. This would be a perfect language to represent Christianity.
- michaelsbradley 2y agoCome on, this one's easy... "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves." — Matthew 10:16 https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2010%3A16 https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2010%3A16
- xp84 2y ago“And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring Forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein” Gen 9:7 So you’re meant to use Forth, do lots of multiplication in it, and do it all on a Macintosh obviously.
- jolt42 2y agoThe 3 branches of government were based on Isaiah 33:22: For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king. It sounds like a language that includes rules, but I don't think it's been invented yet.
- exe34 2y ago> Which programming language would allow me to get closer to God? > Python Heresy! It should be HolyC.
- appstorelottery 2y agoHebrews 5:12: In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the BASIC principles of God's word all over again. BASIC has always been the divinely chosen language for sacred coding. Biblically Appointed Syntax for Inspired Coding ;-)
- cactusplant7374 2y agoRuby takes the cake for beauty. But if God wanted a real workhorse with a good memory he would choose Golang.
- foretop_yardarm 2y agoSimilar ethos with ruby too: Jesus is nice so we are nice.
- ben_w 2y agoPython? Reflecting the god of the bible? After what happened with the forbidden fruit? I'd say it's more like C, because storage constraints in early versions removed vowels[0] and if you break the rules anything can happen. Plus, it starts with a void* (* as in star, let there be light, etc.) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton
- skissane 2y agoI'm surprised nobody has mentioned Perl yet. It is named after the Parable of the Pearl from the Gospel of Matthew. But Larry Wall dropped the E because he discovered there was already another language called PEARL (a rather obscure real-time programming language from Germany)
- senkora 2y agoI guess I'll be the one to link the xkcd: https://xkcd.com/224/ https://xkcd.com/224/
- _blk 2y agoWhat does that say about the HN crowd? Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, *neither cast ye your pearls before swine*, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. (Mat 7:6, KJV)
- ConceptJunkie 2y agoDepending on the source you're translating from, it's possible "swine" should really be "lusers".
- ajuc 2y agoI thought this was established already? God Wrote in Lisp Code. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZCs4Eyalxc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZCs4Eyalxc
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- ksp-atlas 2y agoIsn't it known that the universe is written in Lisp?