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Everything you said here is false

gadders 2y ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxlpjlgdzjo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxlpjlgdzjo "Mr Zuckerberg also said his firm briefly "demoted" content relating to Joe Biden's son, Hunter, ahead of the 2020 election, after the FBI warned of "a potential Russian disinformation" operation. It later became clear that this content was not part of such an operation, Mr Zuckerberg said, and it should not have been temporarily taken down."
- blactuary 2y ago
  "Two and a half years ago, he went on Joe Rogan and said that the FBI had warned the company about the potential for hack and leak efforts put forth by the Russians, which Rogan and a whole bunch of people, including the mainstream media, falsely interpreted as “the FBI told us to block the Hunter Biden laptop story.” Except that’s not what he said. He was asked about the NY Post story (which Facebook never actually blocked, they only — briefly — blocked it from “trending”), and Zuckerberg very carefully worded his answer to say something that was already known, but which people not listening carefully might think revealed something new: The background here is that the FBI came to us – some folks on our team – and was like ‘hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert. We thought there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election, we have it on notice that basically there’s about to be some kind of dump that’s similar to that’. But the fact that the FBI had sent out a general warning to all of social media to be on the lookout for disinfo campaigns like that was widely known and reported on way earlier. The FBI did not comment specifically on the Hunter Biden laptop story, nor did they tell Facebook (or anyone) to take anything down." https://www.techdirt.com/2025/01/16/rogan-misses-the-mark-how-zucks-misdirection-on-govt-pressure-goes-unchallenged/ https://www.techdirt.com/2025/01/16/rogan-misses-the-mark-ho...
  - gadders 2y ago
    "So, first, calling it “censorship” is misleading, because it’s just how you handle violations of your rules, which is why moderation is always a better term for it." Got any sources that don't go in for such blatant gaslighting?
XCabbage 2y ago
No, it is true and has been covered in all major newspapers many times over. The Hunter Biden laptop story was censored due to warnings from the FBI, and Zuckerberg has repeatedly said that Facebook was pressured by the Biden administration to censor Covid-19-related content.
- blactuary 2y ago
  Both of those claims are false, and Facebook's own internal communications showed that they did not censor any covid-related content. SCOTUS ruled that the govt asked them to filter out misinformation without putting any undue pressure on them, and Facebook declined to do so I already posted the link refuting this nonsense with sources
  - XCabbage 2y ago
    No? So this whole section on Wikipedia is just false? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Facebook#COVID-19_vaccines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Facebook#COVID-1... (You may be right about the government "pressure" being grossly overstated, I dunno. But the censorship itself happened.)
    - blactuary 2y ago
      Yes, it is false Citing Shellenberger, laughable
    - blactuary 2y ago
      Also, "this whole section on Wikipedia is just false?" is a very funny sentence
- blactuary 2y ago
  The FBI did not say anything about the Hunter laptop story to Facebook, they warned all social media companies that they had detected suspicious activity and that the companies should be aware of foreign disinformation ops The laptop story was always nonsense anyway, because the chain of custody of the laptop was compromised, and forensic analysis of the hard drive showed that the contents had been modified after it was retrieved from the repair shop and so the content could not be trusted

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxlpjlgdzjo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxlpjlgdzjo "Mr Zuckerberg also said his firm briefly "demoted" content relating to Joe Biden's son, Hunter, ahead of the 2020 election, after the FBI warned of "a potential Russian disinformation" operation. It later became clear that this content was not part of such an operation, Mr Zuckerberg said, and it should not have been temporarily taken down."

blactuary 2y ago
"Two and a half years ago, he went on Joe Rogan and said that the FBI had warned the company about the potential for hack and leak efforts put forth by the Russians, which Rogan and a whole bunch of people, including the mainstream media, falsely interpreted as “the FBI told us to block the Hunter Biden laptop story.” Except that’s not what he said. He was asked about the NY Post story (which Facebook never actually blocked, they only — briefly — blocked it from “trending”), and Zuckerberg very carefully worded his answer to say something that was already known, but which people not listening carefully might think revealed something new: The background here is that the FBI came to us – some folks on our team – and was like ‘hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert. We thought there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election, we have it on notice that basically there’s about to be some kind of dump that’s similar to that’. But the fact that the FBI had sent out a general warning to all of social media to be on the lookout for disinfo campaigns like that was widely known and reported on way earlier. The FBI did not comment specifically on the Hunter Biden laptop story, nor did they tell Facebook (or anyone) to take anything down." https://www.techdirt.com/2025/01/16/rogan-misses-the-mark-how-zucks-misdirection-on-govt-pressure-goes-unchallenged/ https://www.techdirt.com/2025/01/16/rogan-misses-the-mark-ho...
- gadders 2y ago
  "So, first, calling it “censorship” is misleading, because it’s just how you handle violations of your rules, which is why moderation is always a better term for it." Got any sources that don't go in for such blatant gaslighting?

XCabbage 2y ago

No, it is true and has been covered in all major newspapers many times over. The Hunter Biden laptop story was censored due to warnings from the FBI, and Zuckerberg has repeatedly said that Facebook was pressured by the Biden administration to censor Covid-19-related content.

blactuary 2y ago
Both of those claims are false, and Facebook's own internal communications showed that they did not censor any covid-related content. SCOTUS ruled that the govt asked them to filter out misinformation without putting any undue pressure on them, and Facebook declined to do so I already posted the link refuting this nonsense with sources
- XCabbage 2y ago
  No? So this whole section on Wikipedia is just false? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Facebook#COVID-19_vaccines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Facebook#COVID-1... (You may be right about the government "pressure" being grossly overstated, I dunno. But the censorship itself happened.)
  - blactuary 2y ago
    Yes, it is false Citing Shellenberger, laughable
  - blactuary 2y ago
    Also, "this whole section on Wikipedia is just false?" is a very funny sentence
blactuary 2y ago
The FBI did not say anything about the Hunter laptop story to Facebook, they warned all social media companies that they had detected suspicious activity and that the companies should be aware of foreign disinformation ops The laptop story was always nonsense anyway, because the chain of custody of the laptop was compromised, and forensic analysis of the hard drive showed that the contents had been modified after it was retrieved from the repair shop and so the content could not be trusted