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>be astounded if there were not a far greater proportion of people who are here because they are generically interested in tech topics and not specifically star

>be astounded if there were not a far greater proportion of people who are here because they are generically interested in tech topics and not specifically startups. For me what hn use to be an interaction between art and tech in the theme of hackers & painters. Tech along is not so interesting IMHO unless it's in the context of art and/or humanity.

finnthehuman 2y ago
Maciej wrote "Dabblers and Blowhards" in 2005 (that was an eyeopening date to go check). Hackers and Painters was always for the fresh and easily impressionable to feel a sense of specialness.
- gsf_emergency 2y ago
  I'm vibing that the original sin of HN is the shame in being a midwit. Maciej comes off as being an incurious blowhard too.. (Consider that the word "painter" itself has complementary high/low meanings) Currently I'm low-key mulling about the possibly not-even-wrong idea that in some cultures, there simply isn't a clear distinction between high and low art. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42770351 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42770351 The downside of that 1)YC and HN won't attract a lot of people from such cultures, at least not the ones they hope to get (the supposedly curious AND effective folks) 2) eternal September is inevitable, especially for folks who have Alan Kay in their pantheon of heroes Separately, California seems like it could very well host a ommerist culture in a century. See the Oscars, very much a blowhard affair though you could almost call it "communal" (blowhards celebrating shitting in public?) -- Hollywood still has to go through the prepubescent phase of totally embracing their inner and utter philistine. (Compare Kaurismaki, maybe he got a bit enlightened by eastern filmmakers?)
gsf_emergency 2y ago
Upvotes and downvotes are about art vs humanity.. ("painting with #s"[0]) see below [0] an inane activity which has often been unduly embraced/denounced >In 2011, the Museum of Modern Art in New York accepted four early designs of paint by number by Max Klein for its Department of Architecture and Design, donated by Jacquelyn Schiffman.

finnthehuman 2y ago

Maciej wrote "Dabblers and Blowhards" in 2005 (that was an eyeopening date to go check). Hackers and Painters was always for the fresh and easily impressionable to feel a sense of specialness.

gsf_emergency 2y ago
I'm vibing that the original sin of HN is the shame in being a midwit. Maciej comes off as being an incurious blowhard too.. (Consider that the word "painter" itself has complementary high/low meanings) Currently I'm low-key mulling about the possibly not-even-wrong idea that in some cultures, there simply isn't a clear distinction between high and low art. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42770351 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42770351 The downside of that 1)YC and HN won't attract a lot of people from such cultures, at least not the ones they hope to get (the supposedly curious AND effective folks) 2) eternal September is inevitable, especially for folks who have Alan Kay in their pantheon of heroes Separately, California seems like it could very well host a ommerist culture in a century. See the Oscars, very much a blowhard affair though you could almost call it "communal" (blowhards celebrating shitting in public?) -- Hollywood still has to go through the prepubescent phase of totally embracing their inner and utter philistine. (Compare Kaurismaki, maybe he got a bit enlightened by eastern filmmakers?)

gsf_emergency 2y ago

Upvotes and downvotes are about art vs humanity.. ("painting with #s"[0]) see below [0] an inane activity which has often been unduly embraced/denounced >In 2011, the Museum of Modern Art in New York accepted four early designs of paint by number by Max Klein for its Department of Architecture and Design, donated by Jacquelyn Schiffman.