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California's air pollution waiver and the EV mandate are banned by Trump

10 points by thunderbong 2y ago

rUsHeYaFuBu 2y ago
Welp I guess let's hope that carbon capture tech really takes off over the next decade because it's "burn baby burn" for now. Though of course I'm curious if automakers will want to change course from their current direction and where they are sitting globally. Is 4 years of continued ICE production in the U.S. worth it when everywhere else is going the EV and there's already been a significant push I the U.S. to go with EVs? Make EV manufacturing with slow but I doubt there will be any real difference between a new ICE model and 4 years from now. Why spend money on design to just sell to one market when you can sell to many markets with an alternative?
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rs999gti 2y ago
EV sales and resale values cratered in 2024. Instead of forcing EVs on consumers, why not allow the market and consumers choose?
- EA-3167 2y ago
  Because we only have the one planet to live on, and we all have to share it.
- verdverm 2y ago
  China is going to dominate the car market and shutter US factories if the US stops trying to be a leader in EVs If America is going to be great again, wouldn't leading in emerging tech be one of those things it strives for?
- bediger4000 2y ago
  There is the famous Henry Ford quote, something about how id he'd listened to his customers, he'd have built a faster horse.
  - verdverm 2y ago
    Apple's first iPhone with a large touchscreen has a similar backstory
  - dinkumthinkum 2y ago
    That's not really the same thing. That's about product development. Letting the market decide means to bring your product to the market and let it decide. I agree that focus groups and surveys are not the best way to build an innovative product but California was preventing consumers from having a choice, completely different situation.
    - rat87 2y ago
      California was forcing people to abandon their horses and buggies a little faster to get rid of all the manure. Californias moves are smart and correct if a bit too overly autious (setting it at 2035). Ice cars are soon going the way of horse and buggies. The EU is banning them soon, EVs are taking over. The smart thing is to tell the older carmakers to not stick to what they know because that will be gone soon. And because speeding up the transition to EVs will have a modest but significant effect on preventing the worst of climate change. Remember the disasters associated with climate change are already here the longer we wait to take action the worse it will get
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- floxy 2y ago
  America Set EV Sales Record in 2024 https://www.kbb.com/car-news/america-set-ev-sales-record-in-2024/ https://www.kbb.com/car-news/america-set-ev-sales-record-in-...

10 points by thunderbong 2y ago

Welp I guess let's hope that carbon capture tech really takes off over the next decade because it's "burn baby burn" for now. Though of course I'm curious if automakers will want to change course from their current direction and where they are sitting globally. Is 4 years of continued ICE production in the U.S. worth it when everywhere else is going the EV and there's already been a significant push I the U.S. to go with EVs? Make EV manufacturing with slow but I doubt there will be any real difference between a new ICE model and 4 years from now. Why spend money on design to just sell to one market when you can sell to many markets with an alternative?

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rs999gti 2y ago

EV sales and resale values cratered in 2024. Instead of forcing EVs on consumers, why not allow the market and consumers choose?

EA-3167 2y ago
Because we only have the one planet to live on, and we all have to share it.
verdverm 2y ago
China is going to dominate the car market and shutter US factories if the US stops trying to be a leader in EVs If America is going to be great again, wouldn't leading in emerging tech be one of those things it strives for?
bediger4000 2y ago
There is the famous Henry Ford quote, something about how id he'd listened to his customers, he'd have built a faster horse.
- verdverm 2y ago
  Apple's first iPhone with a large touchscreen has a similar backstory
- dinkumthinkum 2y ago
  That's not really the same thing. That's about product development. Letting the market decide means to bring your product to the market and let it decide. I agree that focus groups and surveys are not the best way to build an innovative product but California was preventing consumers from having a choice, completely different situation.
  - rat87 2y ago
    California was forcing people to abandon their horses and buggies a little faster to get rid of all the manure. Californias moves are smart and correct if a bit too overly autious (setting it at 2035). Ice cars are soon going the way of horse and buggies. The EU is banning them soon, EVs are taking over. The smart thing is to tell the older carmakers to not stick to what they know because that will be gone soon. And because speeding up the transition to EVs will have a modest but significant effect on preventing the worst of climate change. Remember the disasters associated with climate change are already here the longer we wait to take action the worse it will get
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floxy 2y ago
America Set EV Sales Record in 2024 https://www.kbb.com/car-news/america-set-ev-sales-record-in-2024/ https://www.kbb.com/car-news/america-set-ev-sales-record-in-...