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> Managed Hosting: No need to manage your own servers > 1 Servers (You bring the servers) Hmm, am I out of touch, or wouldn't "managed hosting" imply I don't

by diggan 2y ago

> Managed Hosting: No need to manage your own servers > 1 Servers (You bring the servers) Hmm, am I out of touch, or wouldn't "managed hosting" imply I don't bring the servers? Then the "Free plan" says "Manager your own infrastructure installing dokploy ui in your own server", which sounds the same as the paid plan, except without support I guess? I think if it was a bit more clear what "Managed hosting" means in this case, the pricing would make somewhat more sense. Right now I wouldn't even understand what I was paying for, if "Bring your own servers" is already free.

d1sxeyes 2y ago
So this is a similar model to Coolify, which seems to be a direct competitor. In fact, it looks VERY similar to Coolify, even down to the menus and menu structure. I'd be interested to see a side by side comparison of the two platforms.
- diggan 2y ago
  Shucks, I don't know about either so I'm guess I'm out of luck :) > Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable alternative to Heroku / Netlify / Vercel / etc. [...] on your own hardware; you only need an SSH connection So Coolify seems strictly non-managed, you manage the hosting itself. While the project in this submission seem to hint at being managed?
  - d1sxeyes 2y ago
    Both offer a monetised version where (basically) someone installs it on your server for you and takes care of updates etc. for you.
    - actionfromafar 2y ago
      And Coolify seems to be actually open source.
- franga2000 2y ago
  They have one, although probably somewhat biased: https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/comparison https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/comparison
  - d1sxeyes 2y ago
    Ah thanks, I was looking in the FAQs, not the docs.
9rx 2y ago
“Managed hosting” implies that someone else will manage the servers for you, but that doesn’t preclude you owning the servers.
- diggan 2y ago
  Right. So if I go for the paid plan, I give them root access to a server I own, and they'll manage everything from there? What exactly are they managing in that case? Wouldn't that count as self-hosted, as I'm the one who is actually providing the server, from my infrastructure? Alternatively, the free plan says "Install Dokploy UI on your own infrastructure" + "Self-hosted Infrastructure", implying the paid plan isn't Dokploy on my own infrastructure or self-hosted, how does that fit in with that I bring my own server?
  - zakki 2y ago
    Depend on the contract but maybe they are the one updating the OS, database, etc.
slowwriter 2y ago
As I understand it, Dokploy Cloud [https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/cloud https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/cloud] makes the hosting "managed" by removing the need for Dokploy UI to be installed on your own VPS. With the free/open source version you need to host the UI yourself.

by diggan 2y ago

d1sxeyes 2y ago

So this is a similar model to Coolify, which seems to be a direct competitor. In fact, it looks VERY similar to Coolify, even down to the menus and menu structure. I'd be interested to see a side by side comparison of the two platforms.

diggan 2y ago
Shucks, I don't know about either so I'm guess I'm out of luck :) > Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable alternative to Heroku / Netlify / Vercel / etc. [...] on your own hardware; you only need an SSH connection So Coolify seems strictly non-managed, you manage the hosting itself. While the project in this submission seem to hint at being managed?
- d1sxeyes 2y ago
  Both offer a monetised version where (basically) someone installs it on your server for you and takes care of updates etc. for you.
  - actionfromafar 2y ago
    And Coolify seems to be actually open source.
franga2000 2y ago
They have one, although probably somewhat biased: https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/comparison https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/comparison
- d1sxeyes 2y ago
  Ah thanks, I was looking in the FAQs, not the docs.

9rx 2y ago

“Managed hosting” implies that someone else will manage the servers for you, but that doesn’t preclude you owning the servers.

diggan 2y ago
Right. So if I go for the paid plan, I give them root access to a server I own, and they'll manage everything from there? What exactly are they managing in that case? Wouldn't that count as self-hosted, as I'm the one who is actually providing the server, from my infrastructure? Alternatively, the free plan says "Install Dokploy UI on your own infrastructure" + "Self-hosted Infrastructure", implying the paid plan isn't Dokploy on my own infrastructure or self-hosted, how does that fit in with that I bring my own server?
- zakki 2y ago
  Depend on the contract but maybe they are the one updating the OS, database, etc.

slowwriter 2y ago

As I understand it, Dokploy Cloud [https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/cloud https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/cloud] makes the hosting "managed" by removing the need for Dokploy UI to be installed on your own VPS. With the free/open source version you need to host the UI yourself.