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> The only realy reason to join a startup is that you either believe in the "mission" or that you believe it will bring you joy to work in that way. Or the sta

by itake 2y ago

> The only realy reason to join a startup is that you either believe in the "mission" or that you believe it will bring you joy to work in that way. Or the startup was a stepping stone in your career. Big Tech wouldn't hire you, b/c you have a different background, so you work at a startup to develop experience and then switch to Big Tech.

praptak 2y ago
Then go from a CTO to an L4 at Google.
- liontwist 2y ago
  and that’s a good thing! As you get a little older and your life needs more stability (oh no I only make 400k at my 9-5)
KaiserPro 2y ago
I mean yeah kinda. But the skills for a startup map poorly to big companies. Startup: you look at something, plan, execute, learn skills as you go. Big company: here is x, do as I say. You must use these things from these teams, don't make it yourself. Coping with the step down in responsibility is hard. Going from owning the entire stack to not even having a real decision in planning is very hard to deal with, especially if you've done that $thing before, and have to mount effectively an election campaign to change direction.
- itake 2y ago
  The mindset change isn’t that different. This is just part of the experience of growing and maturing in your career. I think people with startup backgrounds in big tech tend to hustle harder in their careers than people that were “born” in that environment.
  - KaiserPro 2y ago
    I can see your point of view, but I gently disagree. This is based on my own experience. Being able to see, react and change based on changing business goals was the key to my career success. Being able to talk to decision makers and get something in place to mitigate risk/take advantage is a key thing in buisness. Going from being able to do that, to not even knowing what the business goals are, much less getting access to any kind of decision maker is a tough change. Its like having the scope of a CTO and then going to a scope of an intern. You feel infantalised.

by itake 2y ago

praptak 2y ago

Then go from a CTO to an L4 at Google.

liontwist 2y ago
and that’s a good thing! As you get a little older and your life needs more stability (oh no I only make 400k at my 9-5)

KaiserPro 2y ago

I mean yeah kinda. But the skills for a startup map poorly to big companies. Startup: you look at something, plan, execute, learn skills as you go. Big company: here is x, do as I say. You must use these things from these teams, don't make it yourself. Coping with the step down in responsibility is hard. Going from owning the entire stack to not even having a real decision in planning is very hard to deal with, especially if you've done that $thing before, and have to mount effectively an election campaign to change direction.

itake 2y ago
The mindset change isn’t that different. This is just part of the experience of growing and maturing in your career. I think people with startup backgrounds in big tech tend to hustle harder in their careers than people that were “born” in that environment.
- KaiserPro 2y ago
  I can see your point of view, but I gently disagree. This is based on my own experience. Being able to see, react and change based on changing business goals was the key to my career success. Being able to talk to decision makers and get something in place to mitigate risk/take advantage is a key thing in buisness. Going from being able to do that, to not even knowing what the business goals are, much less getting access to any kind of decision maker is a tough change. Its like having the scope of a CTO and then going to a scope of an intern. You feel infantalised.