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Open Source Alternative to Vercel, Netlify and Heroku

diggan 2y ago
> Managed Hosting: No need to manage your own servers > 1 Servers (You bring the servers) Hmm, am I out of touch, or wouldn't "managed hosting" imply I don't bring the servers? Then the "Free plan" says "Manager your own infrastructure installing dokploy ui in your own server", which sounds the same as the paid plan, except without support I guess? I think if it was a bit more clear what "Managed hosting" means in this case, the pricing would make somewhat more sense. Right now I wouldn't even understand what I was paying for, if "Bring your own servers" is already free.
- d1sxeyes 2y ago
  So this is a similar model to Coolify, which seems to be a direct competitor. In fact, it looks VERY similar to Coolify, even down to the menus and menu structure. I'd be interested to see a side by side comparison of the two platforms.
  - diggan 2y ago
    Shucks, I don't know about either so I'm guess I'm out of luck :) > Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable alternative to Heroku / Netlify / Vercel / etc. [...] on your own hardware; you only need an SSH connection So Coolify seems strictly non-managed, you manage the hosting itself. While the project in this submission seem to hint at being managed?
    - d1sxeyes 2y ago
      Both offer a monetised version where (basically) someone installs it on your server for you and takes care of updates etc. for you.
      - actionfromafar 2y ago
        And Coolify seems to be actually open source.
  - franga2000 2y ago
    They have one, although probably somewhat biased: https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/comparison https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/comparison
    - d1sxeyes 2y ago
      Ah thanks, I was looking in the FAQs, not the docs.
- 9rx 2y ago
  “Managed hosting” implies that someone else will manage the servers for you, but that doesn’t preclude you owning the servers.
  - diggan 2y ago
    Right. So if I go for the paid plan, I give them root access to a server I own, and they'll manage everything from there? What exactly are they managing in that case? Wouldn't that count as self-hosted, as I'm the one who is actually providing the server, from my infrastructure? Alternatively, the free plan says "Install Dokploy UI on your own infrastructure" + "Self-hosted Infrastructure", implying the paid plan isn't Dokploy on my own infrastructure or self-hosted, how does that fit in with that I bring my own server?
    - zakki 2y ago
      Depend on the contract but maybe they are the one updating the OS, database, etc.
- slowwriter 2y ago
  As I understand it, Dokploy Cloud [https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/cloud https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/cloud] makes the hosting "managed" by removing the need for Dokploy UI to be installed on your own VPS. With the free/open source version you need to host the UI yourself.
surrTurr 2y ago
Cool project, but the icon looks like DeepSeek [^1] [1]: https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1 https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1
- madeofpalk 2y ago
  Wait till you see Docker!
  - surrTurr 2y ago
    just because it's a whale, doesn't mean it looks similar it looks a lot more like deepseek when you also consider the movement/form
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shaiguitar 2y ago
How does it relate to https://github.com/localstack/localstack https://github.com/localstack/localstack
- ctm92 2y ago
  From my understanding, localstack is for emulating actual AWS resources locally, so you can develop without relying on their cloud services. It's not intended to be used in production.
ewalk153 2y ago
For personal projects, I’ve fallen for the simplicity of Kamal. Created to host Ruby in Rails apps from DHH and the team who run Hey and Basecamp, Kamal is web framework agnostic. The demo is hosting a go app. Works great on a Pi. https://kamal-deploy.org/ https://kamal-deploy.org/
- drchiu 2y ago
  I enjoy using Kamal as well. It's simple enough for small teams to understand quickly and flexible enough to tinker down at the server level.
DaveMcMartin 2y ago
Although this solution is as cool as Coolify and will probably improve in the future, I still prefer to Dockerize my applications because, after that, switching between cloud providers becomes easy.
higeorge13 2y ago
Nice one, I am going to check it out. Just curious, is there anything with a forever (until further notice) free tier for toy projects?
maxloh 2y ago
There is one caveat, though: it is not open source as advertised. > In the event of a conflict, these provisions shall take precedence over those in the Apache License: > Restriction on Resale: The multi-node support, Docker Compose file support, Preview Deployments and Multi Server features cannot be sold or offered as a service by any party other than the copyright holder without prior written consent. > Modification Distribution: Any modifications to the multi-node support, Docker Compose file support, Preview Deployments and Multi Server features must be distributed freely and cannot be sold or offered as a service. https://github.com/Dokploy/dokploy/blob/canary/LICENSE.MD https://github.com/Dokploy/dokploy/blob/canary/LICENSE.MD
- milliams 2y ago
  The author has seemed oblivious to the difference in past discussions - to the point of deleting issues asking for the description to be changed (https://github.com/Dokploy/dokploy/issues/82 https://github.com/Dokploy/dokploy/issues/82 - unfortunately not archived on Wayback). The fact they're still advertising it as "Open source", even now is astonishing and are clearly just using it as a marketing point and are not interested in it in reality.
  - therealpygon 2y ago
    As with many companies that claim to be “open source” while having excessively restrictive licenses and sometimes not even sharing source.
    - diggan 2y ago
      I think once we let Facebook/Meta get away with calling Llama "Open Source" and seemingly no one bats an eye, we kind of lost the battle about what "Open Source" means. It's not talking about something being available for you without signing an agreement, nor is it actually about source code, but it seems to basically be synonymous with "Freeware" these days.
  - XajniN 2y ago
    Does someone have a legal authority over the term “open source”?
pjmlp 2y ago
The first thing I checked was serverless support, and was pleasently surprised by having containers support instead of the constrained set of options of Vercel and Nelify, not exposing the underlying AWS Lambda capabilities. Already there some plus points.
Havoc 2y ago
Docker swarm underneath. Id rather not build on top of anything that is swarm. Nothing against it per se but just not confident in its longevity. I know people still have it deployed and seem happy but swarm subreddit has a post every two weeks
- taylodl 2y ago
  Maybe because swarm is simple and just works? What's there to really talk about?

> Managed Hosting: No need to manage your own servers > 1 Servers (You bring the servers) Hmm, am I out of touch, or wouldn't "managed hosting" imply I don't bring the servers? Then the "Free plan" says "Manager your own infrastructure installing dokploy ui in your own server", which sounds the same as the paid plan, except without support I guess? I think if it was a bit more clear what "Managed hosting" means in this case, the pricing would make somewhat more sense. Right now I wouldn't even understand what I was paying for, if "Bring your own servers" is already free.

d1sxeyes 2y ago
So this is a similar model to Coolify, which seems to be a direct competitor. In fact, it looks VERY similar to Coolify, even down to the menus and menu structure. I'd be interested to see a side by side comparison of the two platforms.
- diggan 2y ago
  Shucks, I don't know about either so I'm guess I'm out of luck :) > Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable alternative to Heroku / Netlify / Vercel / etc. [...] on your own hardware; you only need an SSH connection So Coolify seems strictly non-managed, you manage the hosting itself. While the project in this submission seem to hint at being managed?
  - d1sxeyes 2y ago
    Both offer a monetised version where (basically) someone installs it on your server for you and takes care of updates etc. for you.
    - actionfromafar 2y ago
      And Coolify seems to be actually open source.
- franga2000 2y ago
  They have one, although probably somewhat biased: https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/comparison https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/comparison
  - d1sxeyes 2y ago
    Ah thanks, I was looking in the FAQs, not the docs.
9rx 2y ago
“Managed hosting” implies that someone else will manage the servers for you, but that doesn’t preclude you owning the servers.
- diggan 2y ago
  Right. So if I go for the paid plan, I give them root access to a server I own, and they'll manage everything from there? What exactly are they managing in that case? Wouldn't that count as self-hosted, as I'm the one who is actually providing the server, from my infrastructure? Alternatively, the free plan says "Install Dokploy UI on your own infrastructure" + "Self-hosted Infrastructure", implying the paid plan isn't Dokploy on my own infrastructure or self-hosted, how does that fit in with that I bring my own server?
  - zakki 2y ago
    Depend on the contract but maybe they are the one updating the OS, database, etc.
slowwriter 2y ago
As I understand it, Dokploy Cloud [https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/cloud https://docs.dokploy.com/docs/core/cloud] makes the hosting "managed" by removing the need for Dokploy UI to be installed on your own VPS. With the free/open source version you need to host the UI yourself.

surrTurr 2y ago

Cool project, but the icon looks like DeepSeek [^1] [1]: https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1 https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1

madeofpalk 2y ago
Wait till you see Docker!
- surrTurr 2y ago
  just because it's a whale, doesn't mean it looks similar it looks a lot more like deepseek when you also consider the movement/form

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shaiguitar 2y ago

How does it relate to https://github.com/localstack/localstack https://github.com/localstack/localstack

ctm92 2y ago
From my understanding, localstack is for emulating actual AWS resources locally, so you can develop without relying on their cloud services. It's not intended to be used in production.

ewalk153 2y ago

For personal projects, I’ve fallen for the simplicity of Kamal. Created to host Ruby in Rails apps from DHH and the team who run Hey and Basecamp, Kamal is web framework agnostic. The demo is hosting a go app. Works great on a Pi. https://kamal-deploy.org/ https://kamal-deploy.org/

drchiu 2y ago
I enjoy using Kamal as well. It's simple enough for small teams to understand quickly and flexible enough to tinker down at the server level.

DaveMcMartin 2y ago

Although this solution is as cool as Coolify and will probably improve in the future, I still prefer to Dockerize my applications because, after that, switching between cloud providers becomes easy.

higeorge13 2y ago

Nice one, I am going to check it out. Just curious, is there anything with a forever (until further notice) free tier for toy projects?

maxloh 2y ago

There is one caveat, though: it is not open source as advertised. > In the event of a conflict, these provisions shall take precedence over those in the Apache License: > Restriction on Resale: The multi-node support, Docker Compose file support, Preview Deployments and Multi Server features cannot be sold or offered as a service by any party other than the copyright holder without prior written consent. > Modification Distribution: Any modifications to the multi-node support, Docker Compose file support, Preview Deployments and Multi Server features must be distributed freely and cannot be sold or offered as a service. https://github.com/Dokploy/dokploy/blob/canary/LICENSE.MD https://github.com/Dokploy/dokploy/blob/canary/LICENSE.MD

milliams 2y ago
The author has seemed oblivious to the difference in past discussions - to the point of deleting issues asking for the description to be changed (https://github.com/Dokploy/dokploy/issues/82 https://github.com/Dokploy/dokploy/issues/82 - unfortunately not archived on Wayback). The fact they're still advertising it as "Open source", even now is astonishing and are clearly just using it as a marketing point and are not interested in it in reality.
- therealpygon 2y ago
  As with many companies that claim to be “open source” while having excessively restrictive licenses and sometimes not even sharing source.
  - diggan 2y ago
    I think once we let Facebook/Meta get away with calling Llama "Open Source" and seemingly no one bats an eye, we kind of lost the battle about what "Open Source" means. It's not talking about something being available for you without signing an agreement, nor is it actually about source code, but it seems to basically be synonymous with "Freeware" these days.
- XajniN 2y ago
  Does someone have a legal authority over the term “open source”?

pjmlp 2y ago

The first thing I checked was serverless support, and was pleasently surprised by having containers support instead of the constrained set of options of Vercel and Nelify, not exposing the underlying AWS Lambda capabilities. Already there some plus points.

Havoc 2y ago

Docker swarm underneath. Id rather not build on top of anything that is swarm. Nothing against it per se but just not confident in its longevity. I know people still have it deployed and seem happy but swarm subreddit has a post every two weeks

taylodl 2y ago
Maybe because swarm is simple and just works? What's there to really talk about?