+1, unfortunately counter-intuitive. A bit of a song comes to mind: "A junkie won't bounce until he hits the ground" - Say Hey There, Atmosphere My family and

+1, unfortunately counter-intuitive. A bit of a song comes to mind: "A junkie won't bounce until he hits the ground" - Say Hey There, Atmosphere My family and I all tried to help a sibling for something like 20 years. Nothing stuck [from us], they had to choose it. The ground helped. Trying to minimize harm just created more :/