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The original comment talked about anti-immigrant sentiment of the new administration. Trump said that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country. How man

The original comment talked about anti-immigrant sentiment of the new administration. Trump said that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country. How many citations of Trump and his aides would it take to make you believe that they're anti-immigrant? https://youtu.be/RKPFjAhd3KQ?si=xiHIFBUfsK6DgQos https://youtu.be/RKPFjAhd3KQ?si=xiHIFBUfsK6DgQos

southernplaces7 2y ago
It's like you read my response and failed to understand a thing.. I specifically mentioned concrete figures because politicians say all kinds of random shit and Trump is particularly prone to hyperbole, but if you're going to measure the actual deeds and trends behind words, you need to look at metrics, and for all Obama's soft words on immigrants, his admin actually deported more of them than Trump's, it's a noteworthy detail, and a valid measurement, though it's far from the only worthwhile thing to keep in mind about his stance on migrants. I too think Trump says grotesque things on many fronts, and his words about immigrants are partly in that range, but it's tedious to see the often unfounded accusations progressives casually throw at him and those who support him without even always knowing what the fuck they're talking about.
- Detrytus 2y ago
  It’s almost like Trump knew that the actions he proposes are controversial at least, illegal possibly, so he tries to scare the illegals so that they leave of their own free will, saving him a trouble.,,
  - gunian 2y ago
    do you think people that know the existence of organ harvesting, human trafficking, Darién Gap would be scared by words? interact with a few see what they are running from will get a few interesting stories to say the least
77pt77 2y ago
Someone high profile in the administration just did a Nazi salute while on stage during the inauguration. Twice! When I saw it first I thought it was bad quality AI stuff and checked the actual stream. It was real. Even here in HN that fact was flagged and shut down pretty quickly.
rayiner 2y ago
> Trump said that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country. You’re substituting a different word here for the word Trump actually used, in an effort to deceive as to the meaning of what he actually said.
- mjmsmith 2y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKPFjAhd3KQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKPFjAhd3KQ The meaning of what he said is clear in the phrase "poisoning the blood of our country".
  - rayiner 2y ago
    No, because you’re pointing to a phrase with a verb and object but no subject. What’s the subject in the actual sentence he said? To whom is he referring?
    - mjmsmith 2y ago
      This sophistry is delicious.

southernplaces7 2y ago

It's like you read my response and failed to understand a thing.. I specifically mentioned concrete figures because politicians say all kinds of random shit and Trump is particularly prone to hyperbole, but if you're going to measure the actual deeds and trends behind words, you need to look at metrics, and for all Obama's soft words on immigrants, his admin actually deported more of them than Trump's, it's a noteworthy detail, and a valid measurement, though it's far from the only worthwhile thing to keep in mind about his stance on migrants. I too think Trump says grotesque things on many fronts, and his words about immigrants are partly in that range, but it's tedious to see the often unfounded accusations progressives casually throw at him and those who support him without even always knowing what the fuck they're talking about.

Detrytus 2y ago
It’s almost like Trump knew that the actions he proposes are controversial at least, illegal possibly, so he tries to scare the illegals so that they leave of their own free will, saving him a trouble.,,
- gunian 2y ago
  do you think people that know the existence of organ harvesting, human trafficking, Darién Gap would be scared by words? interact with a few see what they are running from will get a few interesting stories to say the least

77pt77 2y ago

Someone high profile in the administration just did a Nazi salute while on stage during the inauguration. Twice! When I saw it first I thought it was bad quality AI stuff and checked the actual stream. It was real. Even here in HN that fact was flagged and shut down pretty quickly.

rayiner 2y ago

> Trump said that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country. You’re substituting a different word here for the word Trump actually used, in an effort to deceive as to the meaning of what he actually said.

mjmsmith 2y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKPFjAhd3KQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKPFjAhd3KQ The meaning of what he said is clear in the phrase "poisoning the blood of our country".
- rayiner 2y ago
  No, because you’re pointing to a phrase with a verb and object but no subject. What’s the subject in the actual sentence he said? To whom is he referring?
  - mjmsmith 2y ago
    This sophistry is delicious.